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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-05 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #3714 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3714 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[this was labeled "1984 musical, David Bowie" for some reason]


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[From Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Time's Arrow", parts 1 and 2]


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[Michael Jackson, "Scream"]


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[Misha Collins]


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[Nisio Isin]


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[Yuri on Ice]


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[Caitlyn Jenner]











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(Anonymous) 2017-03-05 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, a rich white cisman would have an expectation of being listened to and would personally believe they could have an effect. That is what Caitlyn's mindset was, that of being the rich white dude who was going to be listened to, because rich white dudes always expect to be listened to.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2017-03-06 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
But it still wouldn't have worked. A rich white cisman wouldn't be able to convice all the right-leaning rich white cicmen to change their mind on this issue, they are already rich themselves and wouldn't feel an inclination to listen.

The expectation may have been born from living as long as Caitlyn did in this situation of privilege, but it's failure will not necessarily be tied to the transition for her.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-06 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
The success or failure of what she wanted is irrelevant here. What is relevant is the expectation that might have been in her mind. As a man he expected people to listen and to pay attention. As a woman she is just finding out that she is mocked and shoved to the margins.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-06 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I guess my thinking is that the simplest explanation for why she thought people might listen to her is her political beliefs, which she had for a long time and pretty sincerely, because it's a way of thinking that actually makes sense to someone with those political beliefs. It just doesn't seem like something that needs to be explained by reference to male privilege or transness.