[ SECRET POST #3715 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3715 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/SxIHARe.jpg

As a formerly Christian agnostic I feel a similar way

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen this film, but I've read synopsises and it sounds like a hot pile of garbage in many ways. There's plenty of valid reasons to criticize Christianity (especially in how it is practiced), but there's a difference between saying "let's make fun of these attitudes/practices because they are hypocritical and harmful" and saying "let's make fun of them because th Tre so DUMB AND STUPID unlike us SMART ATHEISTS"

From what I've seen it doesn't do too well with other religions as well. There's major Muslim and Jewish characters but apparently they exist mainly so they can make jokes about conflicts in the Middle East (which is also one of the reasons I fucking HATED the fourth season of Orange is the New Black)

[sarillia]

I might have to take a look at this just because I'm curious. I've been trying to figure out why some criticism/mockery of religion/Christianity bothers me and others doesn't. I thought it had to do with smugness, since generally I hate that, but I think you could make an argument for Mark Twain being kind of smug at times and I really liked Letters from the Earth. I've always enjoyed the Good Guy Lucifer meme too. So I'm still trying to figure this out.

[philstar22]

I'm a Christian, but I'm still as bothered or more bothered by the whole "crude for the sake of crude" schtrick. It isn't funny, its just crude and gross. I don't mind gross humor when it is used properly. This is not that.

[(Anonymous)]

I find it hard to believe someone earning their PhD wrote this secret.

[(Anonymous)]

So many misspellings.

[(Anonymous)]

Why, though

Misspellings are not very meaningful esp for hard science people

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who studied science (Neuroscience and Chemistry) at a research university, I'm not surprised at all. So many of the professors and TAs I had were not good at the basics like spelling because they were so focused on their research. They felt why waste time dealing with something that is so much less important than their research. (Included in that "less important" was teaching. I really wish I had gone to a non-research oriented college instead of a research university. I feel I would have learned a lot more and been better for it.)

[ketita]

Eh, they could be ESL. Or just a victim of the sciences - a lot of them are shockingly bad at writing.
/a Ph.D student

[(Anonymous)]

I refuse to believe this movie was funny or good in any way. Just point blank.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I'm pretty angry at Christianity in general rn. The Christian Right has done a lot of goddamn damage to my country [the U.S.] Maybe the writers of this movie were just doing catharsis.

I'll have to watch it.

I was raised Syrian Orthodox, btw.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

I'm more of an agnostic deist than a smug atheist, but I'm so sick of religions affecting those who don't follow their tenets in terms of lawmaking and voting trends that I'm just like...tip those sacred cows!

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I'm agnostic too, but I think it's worth saying that I have NEVER had a Jewish person or a Muslim try to convert me to their religion. Yet somehow that seems to be not only okay but also expected with Christianity, and that's just fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

If you'll excuse my saying so, being angry at all of Christianity because of the Christian Right is fucking stupid. Be angry at the Christian Right for what the Christian Right has done.

[feotakahari]

There are a lot of people who don't think they can possibly be part of the problem, though. For instance, some of them think the problem is those people who hate gay people. If you don't hate gay people, but believe that gay people are sinners who need to be cured, you're still part of the problem. (To be clear, this is just one example.)

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of more "moderate" Christians are acting in ways that give support to the extremists, though. Having been raised Christian, there's a lot of "well, we disagree with them, but we don't want to air our dirty laundry where other people can see it." Instead of decreasing political power, it lets them say that they have all of these people behind them.

[cindyanne1]

I was so disappointed in this movie too. Not for the Christian-bashing but just because it was so, so, so over the top stupid. It had potential to be so cute (the preview cracked me up!) but it turned out to be just trash. (I realize that was probably the point, but damn... it was so awful.)

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen this movie, so I can't comment on it specifically, but I get the general sentiment. Sometimes it seems like people go for the easy, low-hanging fruit to poke fun at Christianity. There's a lot to critique about that religion, and some people can do it better than others.

(That's one reason I love it whenever Stephen Colbert tackles religion. He has a deep understanding of the religion as a whole and can bring a thoughtful critique to the topic.)

[sarillia]

Agreed on Colbert. I've been watching a ton of clips of him lately.

[feotakahari]

Slightly OT, but I just realized that I haven't seen a fictional critique of the Prosperity Gospel more recent than Fun With Dick and Jane in 1977. It seems like a prime target.

[diet_poison]

oh man I didn't even know it did that. that shit is so annoying. I have no interest in ever watching it though because it looks juvenile and stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. I never viewed it as a bash of Christianity, specifically, but I suppose it could be.

As for the film, it was okay for your average trashy, raunchy, lewd and crude movie. I laughed at the baby carrots part, just because it was so stupid.

[randomdrops]

I think you had too high of expectations when going in for this movie.

[mimi_sardinia]

The biggest reason I never want to see this movie is that I dislike stories about sentient vegetables that are horrified at being eaten. Meat products maybe, since they used to be animals, but vegetables exist to be eaten by something.

[feotakahari]

Strictly speaking, the purpose of a vegetable is to create more vegetables. A fruit may have seeds that can survive in an animal's gut and be excreted in some distant place, but I don't think cabbage, for instance, directly benefits from being edible except in the sense that humans plant it to eat it.