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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-21 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3730 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3730 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Movie: 8Uppers, Actor/Singer: Nishikido Ryo]


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[Psych, Shawn/Jules]


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[Gentlemen Prefer Blondes]


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[Yuri on Ice]


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[Irish comedian Ed Byrne and the Great British Bake Off]


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[Pokemon B/W]


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[Overwatch]







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ketita: (Default)

Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] ketita 2017-03-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
For me it's that there's no POINT in it. Like, if you want to watch BATB, go watch it - we have a perfectly amazing BATB film! Everything I've seen about the new one seems to be of lower quality than the original.
So atm you get a generation who go for nostalgia, because they saw the original high-quality one and fell in love with it. But where do you go from there? Either we keep degrading forever (where each remake is evoking nostalgia for the previous one, and is thus of slightly lower quality), or you have to re-release the original in order to bring back the hype, and then..... why not just watch the original in the first place.
It's a "don't fix what ain't broke" situation. Some films do well with remaking, especially if certain flaws in the original can be corrected.
In many cases, there's nothing to correct, so you're just creating inferior products instead of new, original ones.
sarillia: (Default)

Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-21 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd agree that these things shouldn't be done unless they can improve on the original (or do something different with it that's just as good), but personally there were several aspects of the new Beauty and the Beast that I liked better than the original.
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Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] ketita 2017-03-22 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's fair. I'm not personally very invested in BATB myself, and from what I've seen, I wasn't impressed by the singing, and some of the acting just looked kind of bad to me. So with those kinds of negatives, I don't see it replacing the original for me, should I want to watch BATB.

Out of curiosity, did you like it better enough that you would unequivocally choose it over the original, if you were told you can only watch one of them from now on?
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Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-22 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, that's an interesting question. I might, honestly. The things I preferred were the relationships between the characters. I love how they developed Belle and her father's relationship. I really like how Belle and the Beast got closer. That's more important to me than things like the superior singing of the original. Though as someone who loves animation and hates seeing it limited to kids stuff, irreverent comedies playing on subverting the kids stuff image, and Japanese stuff, I hate to think of denying myself the first animated film to be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture.
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Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] ketita 2017-03-22 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
See, that's the thing I struggle with. You've got some movies that were genuinely groundbreaking - so there's nothing particularly impressive about remaking them. It's a sure thing. And in some cases, improving on minor flaws is made even easier, because of COURSE you can tweak small things when you have a product that's already amazing! And if you're not an idiot, it won't ruin it either.

In a way, this is very similar to the question of retranslating in translation studies - whether or not it's legitimate to retranslate a work that's been translated well. And you get the people who say that things *must* be retranslated every 40 years or so, to keep them up to date - but then who's taking care of the original?
I think part of it is this obsession these days with only looking forward and never glancing back.
sarillia: (Default)

Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-22 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard about that translation debate before. That's interesting.

Re: Nostalgia

(Anonymous) 2017-03-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Many kids these days don't like their parents movies or design style. BUT a remake allows parents to feel nostalgia and introduce kids to a story in a medium they enjoy.
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Re: Nostalgia

[personal profile] ketita 2017-03-22 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but some of it is the oversaturation with modern media. If you never get used to other styles of films, of course you can't get into them!
I'm glad that growing up my parents made sure we had a variety, and not just all the big 90s things.
It's the same thing with books - we grew up reading classics too, reading older children's books. When I was a kid, one of my absolute favorite books was The Swiss Family Robinson, and another was White Fang. Neither of those books are especially new.
Palate is a thing that needs to be developed.