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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-07 05:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #3747 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3747 ⌋

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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

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[personal profile] fscom 2017-04-07 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
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[Broadchurch]
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[personal profile] morieris 2017-04-07 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds reasonable to me. It's not just young collegiate women being raped in a dark room.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2017-04-07 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Afaik they actually consulted charities/support centres to try and be more on the realistic side. I'm not saying that those conversations influenced the decision to have an older victim (it was probably already decided) and I don't know much about these things but it does seem to me like the series is handling it fairly well. They've even emphasised at a couple of points that it's not about attraction etc and the one character who said in anger (not that it's justified, still awful to say) "of all the women there, who would rape you?" was definitely portrayed as being unreasonable to put it mildly.

I just hope the revelation of who did it doesn't veer off into somehow making Trish partially responsible. That fear has been lurking in the back of my mind I have to say.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Rapist is the stalker vicious black guy.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2017-04-07 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Really or just speculation? I thought that was coming across as too obvious so have pretty much assumed it's the taxi driver, though he's a bit obvious too tbh.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt It's speculation. His character is a suspect, but there are two episodes left in the series so it's not guaranteed. In fact, they're signalling him as a suspect so strongly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be someone else as a "gotcha!" moment because this is a mystery series, after all.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2017-04-07 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's like the first series it'll be a perpetrator that went under the radar for most of it. If it's like the second it'll be someone(s) who may as well have been sign-posted with a flashing arrow above their heads since day one. For the sake of good writing (regardless of the subject matter, which is always horrible) I'm hoping more for a first series ending.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm not sure I agree with that description of the second series. If anything, the second series also had a prime suspect for most of it, but... *MASSIVE SPOILER ALERT*... he was only partly guilty and there was still a surprise element to the murders. But yeah, for series 3 it seems unlikely to me that the case is solved when there are still two episodes left.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2017-04-07 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I confess I didn't get on with series 2 all that much! I'm a wee bit grumpy about it, well I was at the time anyway. I do think I should do a rewatch of everything so maybe second time around I'll see it in a new light. It wasn't bad at all - I just think it was a lot of hype to live up to and maybe series 3 is benefiting from more measured expectations.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Series 2 was a bit rough, I agree. You had the two plots of the court trial AND the murders in Sandbrook. I actually think the mystery was better than the first season but then as you said, peoples' expectations were a lot higher, too.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There are two episodes to go, so this is only speculation. I can't help but feel you're trying to stir the pot, and it really isn't helpful.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
So far I think the series has handled the topic very well and I agree about the atypical casting choice as a rape victim. I also liked how they're not making her perfect, if that makes any sense? She's not a flawless human being by any means, but they're careful to point out that none of this means she deserved to be raped. The two detectives pointedly shut down a fellow cop who starts up the usual what was she wearing, was she drunk spiel.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't seen the show but that seems like a very good choice on the part of the show. I don't think you're wrong about the way rape victims are portrayed in general, even just in terms of what we might call "demographics."

(Anonymous) 2017-04-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
there is a very fucked up tendency to describe any female victim of any violent crime as attractive whether she is or not, as if attractiveness were some sort of requirement for sympathy.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean. Rape in tv shows, etc. usually does feel like there's a angle titillate. I mean, if there's a young, attractive female character with an angsty past, you know there's probably going to be a rape backstory in there.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
*an angle

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I can definitely understand this, OP. Especially because, in real life, so many people think that rape is sexual. "Unattractive" women can get this sort of attitude from others sometimes that they should feel grateful that someone found them attractive enough to rape them. So when any piece of media portrays the Perfect Rape Victim (young, attractive, beautifully broken) it really just perpetuates the idea that only "attractive" women get raped, and that if you're ugly and you get raped, you either should count yourself lucky that someone "wanted" you, orrrrr you're making it up because come on, who would ever want to have sex with you?

So yeah, I don't watch this show, but I can appreciate this secret.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
if ugly and you get raped, you either should count yourself lucky that someone "wanted" you, orrrrr you're making it up because come on, who would ever want to have sex with you?

Ugh, I've seen this mentality by guys so many places on the internet.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-08 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. That mindset is so common and so depressing. Media reflects it because people find it more credible than the reality, which is that middle aged women and senior citizens who aren't supermodels can also be victims of rape. In their minds, people are going, "Well, I don't find HER attractive, so..." and that is all kinds of messed up.