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There seem to be a couple people commenting on this secret who think that people use "anti" to mean "person who doesn't ship my OTP," and...no. Not even remotely. While they do show up in shipwars, antis are a particular kind of NOTP-er; specifically, they're a community dedicated to chasing people out of the fandom under the guise of social justice leanings. A lot of them are proud to call themselves antis, so they're pretty easy to spot, if the suicide-baiting and troll fics and dedicated hating communities and blacklists don't give them away.

Popular battle cries of your modern anti:

- Shipping an adult/teen pairing in Yuri on Ice or Voltron: Legendary Defender fandom: you will now be accused of being a pedophile

- Shipping Rey/Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens fandom: you're an abuse apologist

- Shipping anything except Finn/Rey from Star Wars: The Force Awakens: you're a racist (ignoring another popular pairing of Finn/Poe, two non-white men). Also, this fandom is a special case, in that the anti-racist crowd actually succeeded in chasing a writer out of fandom for the horrible crime of writing Finn/Poe sex pollen fic.

There are many more fandoms they've infected, but these are some big ones. Also, since being anti-pairing isn't enough, there are also antis that are against entire canons, notably Captive Prince and Stranger Things (Stranger Things dared to be more popular than the Get Down and deserves hate, even though the two are wildly different shows.)

Anyway: antis are nuts. Steer clear of them when you see them, because there's no reasoning with them.

Thank you for posting this.

Thank you.

I feel like the people upthread being dismissive either are antis trying to minimize their actions or people who have never seen actual antis first hand.

I have and that person in my life kind of horrified me because of that. They would tell people online to die and I always felt like if I disagreed on something they felt strongly about they'd spread my personal info or take it to my boss.

There are very few ways to do fandom wrong.

Devoting an entire tumblr to "calling out" supporters of a NOTP is one of them.

Seriously, two things that tumblr could do to fix its harassment problem: 1) No anonymous sideblogs, and 2) disable anonymous asks.

For example, I think that a fair bit of shipping of the tinfoil hat variety--see parts of SPN, BBC Sherlock, and larries as examples--often involves creepy fetishism of gay and bi men. But I have better things to do with my life than to create sockpuppet accounts for the purpose of shaming fans with a few hundred followers.

Thanks for the clarification!

I've seen the anti-OtaYuri ones and the ones where they make lists with users and links to their tumblrs/twitters/whathaveyou that happen to ship things or have content they deem as wrong.

Yeah, antis are huge in some fandoms. It's really a shame.

There's also plenty of people on tumblr who simply go through ship tags and then send anon hate to people shipping their NOTP. I've gotten a couple anon messages for reblogging Thorki stuff. It's pretty crazy how militant antis have gotten.

There are def more fandom they've infected. I'm sadly invested into a very interesting ship with a BIG problematic element. I'm perfectly understanding of people squicked by the ship and I do my best to tag my content appropiately so those who are not interested can steer clear of it.

But the antis. Oh, the antis.
Rarely I've met a bunch of more immature, self-absorbed, nasty people as the antis of this ship.
They go out of their way to spam the ship tag with their useless callouts, they literally spam it with unrelated -always gross- gifs just because. They then cry cause tumblr reccomends blogs about the ship to them.
They hurl insults, death threats, invites to kill ourselves on the daily. And then act all high and mighty and say they are doing "god's work."
It's quite the show.

So yeah, all of this. Antis are not simply people that have a Notp. They are much, much worse

Because people do use "anti" to mean "person who doesn't ship my OTP". Maybe at some point or in some fandoms it's only ever meant people who have an unholy dedication to make the lives of people who ship their NoTP miserable, but fandom being fandom, it's been diluted to the point where a lot of people who are accused of being antis are, in fact, people who just exist in their own corner, shipping their own ship and leaving their NoTP the fuck alone.

Things I have seen people hounded as antis for:

-Saying they don't ship a particular ship.
-Shipping the rival ship of a popular pairing.
-Writing a fic that handles a canon relationship breaking up in the course of establishing a non-canon ship.
-Posting something negative about a ship they didn't like in their own blog, beneath a cut, deliberately untagged, because the bright lights at Tumblr decided they were going to search content as well as tags and fandom is fucking fandom.

DA

That's still not what it means, though. Antis usually describe themselves as such (no accusations from "OTPers" required) and are proud of it, and they're the ones who do the hounding. Just because some people in your obscure corner of fandom misuse a term doesn't change what it means to everyone else. Antis as described by AYRT are a relatively recent development in fandom so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that that definition of an anti is some watered down relic of the past.

Why am I getting horrible flashbacks of when I was reading about Humpty Dumpty saying to Alice that words could mean just about anything?

idk. i'm a pretty open anti shipper in a certain fandom but stick to the anti tags and my own blog. and i've witnessed way more shippers send antis hate than the other way around. before i remade, i had more followers and got massive amounts of anon hate. it's not my fault tumblr lumps anti stuff into the main ship tag, i tag my stuff.

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