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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-19 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3759 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
BATB is such a well known story.....even regular audiences would know that eventually she turns into a beautiful human

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But Shrek, tho?

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Was this not Howl's Moving Castle? It is pretty close to the plot of that, surely?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're sighting that as an example of an ugly woman with a beautiful man, I mean, very loosely speaking? Howl knows she's actually young and decent-looking the entire time. And she's not exactly beastly, she's just a granny, and it's not like Howl's all over her sexually while she is.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I would also love to see Beauty and the Beast with the genders reversed. I really can't stand those types of stories with the "traditional" gender roles - beautiful sweet young women kidnapped and falling in love with frightening and powerful men (beasts figuratively or otherwise). But the reverse sounds like something I'd be mad into.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
This is a very progressive comment, and you should feel good about yourself.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Man. I mean. It seems to me wrong on a fundamental level to talk about this trope, in all its variations and varieties, as "attractive person willingly pairs up with unattractive person." I don't think that would be the point of Reverse Beauty And The Beast, any more than it's the point of Beauty and the Beast, any more than it's the point of Pygmalion, any more than it's the point of loathly lady stories, any more than it's the point of She's All That or any other teen movie. The point of all those stories is the transformation from unattractive into object of desire. I just really don't think that mode of storytelling is doing the thing you want it to do. If you want stories about ugly people, tell stories about dang ugly people, not ugly people turning into swans. Dang it.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I read a Sam/Madison fic where Madison was the beast.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
the day Disney has an unattractive princess, I'll give Mickey Mouse a blowjob.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I found Snow White fairly unattractive

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[personal profile] randomdrops 2017-04-19 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I find it odd that I've honestly never considered this. But I'm with you OP, I'd definitely be into it.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if this happened I'd almost want Beast to stay a beast though, because having her become an attractive princess at the end just kind of kills it.

I'd really love for a princess to have a beastly personality though. One reason I've been getting bored of Disney films is that their female leads seem interchangeable, especially in recent years.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I think this is basically what happens when you create characters based on their marketability to little girls as the top priority, as opposed to creating characters who are interesting.

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[personal profile] cat_i_th_adage 2017-04-20 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Swamp King's Daughter" had a princess-type person who was either pretty and unpleasant, or frog like and sweet.
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[personal profile] el_regrs 2017-04-19 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if Game of Thrones counts, we might be getting a version of this pairing very soon... fingers crossed... unless somebody dies before it happens... (goddamnit nobody's safe)

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My first thought here was that the female beast in the drawing is actually really cute (though, not "attractive" to a person of course).

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about the earliest written versions of the fairy tale, but every adaptation of BatB I've seen on screen or stage depicts the beast as an animal-like creature, not just an ugly dude. A gender-reversed version wouldn't really be about an attractive man falling in love with a less attractive - but otherwise normal - human woman, but with a sort of lion-bison-whatever woman (or, just our luck, a sexy cat girl)... who turns into a beautiful princess at the end.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
That is a very cute picture. But she doesn't look frightening or scary at all, just adorable as a kitten.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Forget BATB gender swap, I want a straight-up Sir Gawain and Lady Ragnell movie. I love that story.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
lol no one considers the Disney Beast to be ugly. Even Emma Watson said she found the Beast to be sexier than the human form.
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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2017-04-20 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Even better: Beast turns into a beautiful prince, only for some clause in the spell to turn Beauty into a Beast now.

There was this thing we watched in 8th grade.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
We were doing something on values. Anyway, there's this short film called Johnny Lingo (from 1969, apparently). Johnny Lingo is a shrewd, but honest and well-liked Polynesian trader. Lingo has come to one island to bargain for a wife. Mahana, the young woman he desires, is considered by her neighbors and even her father to be of little value— sullen, ugly, and undesirable. As the bargaining is about to begin, women of the island brag to each other of how many cows their husbands had given for each of them, and comment that Mahana's father will be lucky to see one cow as Lingo's offer. Instead, Lingo offers the unheard-of price of eight cows for her hand in marriage. Lingo brings the cows and subsequently marries Mahana that night, enduring some derision for a deal that many believe to be foolish, while Mahana’s father revels in his newfound prosperity. Johnny and Mahana then leave the island on a trading trip. When they come back, Mahana is a beautiful, happy woman. Even Mahana's father began accusing Johnny Lingo of cheating him by giving only eight cows for a girl truly worth ten cows. Johnny, her proud husband, had proved to her that her true worth had nothing to do with what others saw, but only what she truly was.

(It's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfahoLfrddU)

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be into this. I'm tired of BatB, mainly because the Beast gets the full range (he gets to be ugly on the inside and the outside, then with her help gets pretty on the inside and thus pretty on the outside) while Beauty just has to be Beauty, always.

This way she gets to have the arc and he's there to help her transform.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Late but: there's the movie "Penelope" which is a bit of a reverse Beauty and the Beast tale. The lady isn't full "beastly" (she just has a pig nose) but it might still interest you?