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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-19 06:32 pm

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Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn it looks good!! https://youtu.be/E5hrFVQiGyk
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Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] sarillia 2017-04-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh cool, I didn't know they were doing Cloak and Dagger.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That honestly looks pretty dope, given that it's a Marvel teen show on Freeform
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Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-19 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the logo.

The show looks rapey.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
How does the show look rapey?
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-19 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
0:23 and 1:26? Just getting rapist vibes.

And after Jessica Jones got such high praise for "Real and Gritty"TM I would be willing to put solid money on the fact that Tyrone will be fighting mostly racism -
Prolly from cops. Gotta be relevant, right? - and Tandy will be fighting mostly misogyny.

I'm not particularly bashing it yet - although I will wait to see if its done well - I'm just calling what I suspect will be their being themes and based on those two time stamps up there and my suspeicions, I think it looks a little rapey.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"having rape occur in something" is not the same as "being rapey" imo

second, I think that having a Cloak & Dagger TV show not talk about race and related issues at all would be mind-bogglingly idiotic. I feel like those themes come along with the basic concept of Cloak & Dagger. dunno though
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Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-19 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
""having rape occur in something" is not the same as "being rapey" imo"

No? How would you define something as being rapey?

No, not talking about it at all would be dumb. Particularly the whole Black man / White women thing and how people would react to it, but I suspect it's not going to just be a thing thats brought up, rather than the theme. Might be wrong, waiting to see.

I mean, like wonder woman used to fight Nazis and monsters, but the last Wonder woman comic series I read, all she fought was misogyny. Like every villain was a guy with less than enlightened views on women, and they were of course all super keen on telling wonder woman about it.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I would assume that, if you say something's rapey, it has themes or plotlines that have rapey undertones that the show doesn't seem to be aware of

Also, I'm not arguing any more about social representation in media with your gamergate ass anyway, shouldn't have done it in the first place
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Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-20 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I see. Makes sense but not, I just mean rapey as in contains rape.

Well you're free to do as you see fit,but I don't think I said anything objectionable or hostile or anything really to warrant your dismissal, I really don't, but like I say, you do you.

I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
so wait, they get their superpowers from super-heroin? but then they're supposed to be anti-drug vigilantes? so it's a comic about how drugs give you super powers but then you have to use those super powers to get rid of drugs?

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

(Anonymous) 2017-04-19 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, from the company that gave you the idea that pumping your own soldiers full of steroids is how you win a war and be a perfect human.
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Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-04-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this isn't a new thing with them. Gotta look at the era of their creation. Drugs were the big social evil that needed fighting.

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, somehow missed the era. Makes sense

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-04-20 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah the 1980s, when the top bad guys for America were:

1. nazis (metaphorical or otherwise)
2. communists, of differing ethnicities but almost always with a Russian behind it all
3. urban drug lords

Never mind that the American history of foreign policy ratfucking involved giving weapons to communists to fight nazis, and then to drug profiteers to fight the communists.

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-04-20 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Every now and then you'd get Suburban Satanism (metaphorical or otherwise) as a diversion.

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
you are the calm in the storm, breathe

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-04-20 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
WOLVERINES!

(lol)

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
This is really overly simplistic. We also gave weapons to nazis and Islamic extremists to fight communists.

Re: I'd never heard of them, so read wiki

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-04-20 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
That is true.

Another data point was that mass media got a lot of heat from pearl-clutching interest groups about children and gratuitous sex and violence. (The PG-13 rating was created in 1984 for context.) So there was a lot of "hey this is wholesome, they're beating up bad people" going on in the 80s.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] nightscale 2017-04-19 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I never thought I'd see this superhero pair ever in a TV show/movie because they're not ones that get that much attention or focus. I'll check it out regardless and see how I like it.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

[personal profile] philippos42 2017-04-20 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Don't screw this up, Disney.

I love those two frightening codependent runaways.

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I can only think of the Hark, a Vagrant! version:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=398

Re: Marvel's Cloak and Dagger Trailer

(Anonymous) 2017-04-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought of that too, but the preview looks really promising IMO