[ SECRET POST #3809 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3809 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Solstice]



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[Martin Starr, Spider-Man: Homecoming]


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[MacGyver (2016)]











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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/9UYhV5C.png

[(Anonymous)]

There is definitely a strain in American culture that's deeply sympathetic to a variety of outlaws including murderers of various types. So I don't agree with the idea that it's unprecedented and some kind of double standard. That's all I have to say about that, already tired of this argument tbh

[sarillia]

I don't know, I think people are more open to this kind of sympathizing than you might think. Look at M, a highly-regarded film famous for sympathizing with a child killer.

[(Anonymous)]

Just imagine if there was some kind of stage musical about a man who Murdered people and had them cooked into pies

Why, people would be outraged, I assume

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine the reason why people aren't terribly outraged is because Sweeney Todd is probably a fictional character and there's little basis for believing he was a real person committing real crimes. So it'd be a little bit like wondering why more people aren't outraged about the entire movie franchise based on Freddy Krueger.

[(Anonymous)]

I assume that if they (unlike you, lol) can tell the difference between real life and fiction, they won't be quite so upset.

[(Anonymous)]

Sondheim loved that shit. Assassins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins_(musical)) was a huge thing too.

[(Anonymous)]

Bit of a difference between the a real serial killer and a fake one.

[sarillia]

That's fair.

[(Anonymous)]

The movie didn't make her sympathetic enough. Try reading up how hellish her life actually was.

[(Anonymous)]

Her life was not more hellish than the average serial killer's life. Serial killers with fucked up childhoods are way more prominent than serial killers with a fairly normal one.

[(Anonymous)]

And? I don't know how the movie made her more sympathetic than watching a documentary about her would make her.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the movie, so I can't speak to how she was portrayed in it, but yeah, from what I've heard about her life elsewhere...I almost wonder if "hellish" isn't a strong enough word to describe it sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

1. Depending on who you believe her victims weren't completely innocent (she always claimed self defense)

2. American's have been romanticizing real life criminals and murders since at least the early 20th century so its not actually that unprecedented

[(Anonymous)]

She claimed self defense SOMETIMES. But the evidence and her own words show that except for maybe the first one, they were mostly innocent people. She was certainly no noble vigilante.

Her own words: https://youtu.be/3yi2dbaQ3mM

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but do you have a response to the other point, or

[(Anonymous)]

"In a pivotal scene, Broomfield, pretending that the camera is switched off, asks Wuornos whether the killings were in self-defence. She whispers that they were, but explains she can no longer bear the misery of life on death row."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/3606954/I-cant-stand-being-in-here-its-just-too-awful.html

[(Anonymous)]

Really gross how you're comparing a rape victim to two rapists.

[(Anonymous)]

They both had abusive pasts (especially Henry Lee Lucas). Being a victim doesn't justify being a serial killer. Or does it?

[(Anonymous)]

No, but she wasn't a rapist and a pedophile like he was.

I don't know

[(Anonymous)]

Bates Motel is pretty sympathetic to Norman (he's sort of based on Ed Gein).

There have been quite a few sympathetic portrayals of Lucky Luciano, Bugsy Malone, and other mobsters.

[(Anonymous)]

I look forward to your follow-up secrets on Bonnie and Clyde, Bugsy Siegel and the entire oeuvre of Martin Scorsese.

[(Anonymous)]

But don't you see, mobsters killing innocent people don't count because they aren't ~serial killers~. Its different because we have a different label for them.

[(Anonymous)]

It's only wrong if they're specific real-life spree killers

Mob hits are fine, and imaginary spree killers are also fine

[(Anonymous)]

Why are mob hits fine by this logic? They don't just take out other mobsters.