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[ SECRET POST #3818 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3818 ⌋

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[Twin Peaks]

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[Parks and Recreation]

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[The Grand Tour, Richard Hammond]

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(character from the movie The Babadook)

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[The Mummy (2017 reboot)]

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[Kemono Friends]

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they aren't oppressed, though. fuck off.

They are though. Your comment literally proves it. Fuck off.

"someone disagreeing with me on the internet proves that i am oppressed"

good luck in your next debate class, kid. with that kind of stellar logic you're sure gonna need it.

You obviously have the maturity level of a sea monkey, so I'm not even going to bother acknowledging this as a legitimate argument. Have a wonderful day!

at least i don't pretend to be oppressed and then whine about how people don't buy it, lol.

When you're denied housing or medical treatment or you're fired from a job because you don't fuck people, get back to me and we'll talk about oppression. Jesus Christ, someone hurting your feelings isn't oppression.

Tell gay people in Chechnya about how oppressed you are for that and they'll tell you to fuck off, so hey. Oppression Olympics!

Being denied housing, medical treatment, or being fired for your sexual orientation is oppression. What's happening to gay men in Chechnya is also oppression, of a much worse variety. Both are oppression, but one is more extreme and horrific.

People making fun of you on the internet for not having sex? That is not oppression.

Also, the fact that you're using the suffering of real people as a "gotcha" is disgusting. This is exactly why LGBT people do not want to be associated with non-LGBT asexuals. Because your persecution complex inevitably leads to this sort of homophobic bullshit.

Um corrective rape though? It happens to aces?

I will never get why people get so angry about aces wanting to be included. The reasons people list for why they don't count often sound a lot like biphobia to me.

that's not because they're ace though, it happens to anyone who turns down shitty people

Yeah, it's called misogyny. How often do you hear about asexual males being victims of corrective rape? I'm guessing not often.

Don't fucking compare this to biphobia, bisexual people actually have reason to be in the LGBT community. They're the fucking B. If you're asexual and also one of the letters in that acronym, then yeah, you should be included, but if not you're not? You're not oppressed, you're not "queer", and you need to stop this homophobic bullshit.

ISTG, you fuckers act like LGBT is an exclusive club you can join and the meanie gays won't let you in for no reason because they're SOOOOOOOO mean.

I'm not ace, dumbass (not straight either. What i am is none of your business) I just see no reason "lack of sexual attraction" can't be included with "sexual attraction to x, y or x and y". You can call me whatever you want but i till believe it"

Look, it's very simple.

Heteromantic asexuals and aromantic heterosexuals are straight. They do not belong in the LGBT community. They have no reason to be there/

Aromantic asexuals, while not straight, have no reason to be in the LGBT community, which consists of people - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans - who've faced similar oppression, marginalization, and fuckery from society due to their orientation, sexual expression, gender presentation, etc. and thus have banded together in solidarity against that oppression, marginalization, and fuckery.

People who are not L, G, B, or T - such as, for example, straight asexuals, have no place in this and need to stop trying to shove their way into LGBT discussions and LGBT spaces.

Straight asexuals trying to act like they are queer and oppressed for it is one of my least favorite things. I'm bi. I can't tell anyone I know irl because there would be some very serious social consequences for me at the very least (talking possibly disowned by many of my relatives and friends kind of social consequences), and who knows what kind of other things might happen. I also have to be wary of who I tell in the LGBT community, because I've been on the receiving end of more than one "bi women are fake sluts who just want male attention and need to gtfo of gay/lesbian spaces because everyone knows you aren't trustworthy and aren't really capable of loving another woman" rant. It chaps my behind to see people act like being straight but not being particularly interested in actually having sex is somehow equivalent to even the less serious stuff I have to deal with. Your family is not going to disown you for choosing not to have sex. You aren't going to be viciously verbally attacked and accused of all kinds of horrible bullshit you would never do for choosing not to have sex. Quit pretending to be oppressed. You don't even have a history of oppression to fall back on. Abstinence has always been PREFERRED throughout history by society, especially if you are a woman.

...Yeah. Misogyny. That's why my male friend was correctively raped. And why asexuals are more often told they're broken and inhuman and it's 98% more likely any asexual character is an inhuman robot. Not oppressed. Sure.

Maybe not to the same degree I, a lesbian, am, but... Jesus fuck, a gay man isn't oppressed 100% the same way I am, either.

That sucks.

It's not!! Oppression!!

I'm really sorry about what happened to your friend, and yes, saying those things is super shitty, but it is not oppression.

No one in the history of humanity has ever lost a job because they don't fuck people. No one has ever been turned away from a doctor because they don't fuck people. No one has ever become homeless because they don't fuck people. Those things happen to asexual people, but it is not because of their asexuality as it would be with an LGBT person.

Only a piece of shit would sit there and screech "its not oppression" when someone proves their dumb claim wrong by saying male asexuals CAN be raped.

History will prove you fucks wrong and I hope you get all the scorn you deserve. Seriously who sits there and says "well thats shitty but it doesn't count" when someone says they were raped because of their asexuality?

Only scum.

using your friend's rape as a tool for discourse, classy

It's telling that the only places where I see this dumpster fire of a debate are tumblr and here on fandom secrets, because assholes keep bringing it here. Someone tried pulling this shit on mastodon.social yesterday, but no one bit and the general consensus was, "don't bring tumblr discourse here."

(I don't think that's possible on mastodon. One can't use fulltext search to find targets for harassment, one can't reblog posts and add "yikes" or "bad post op" to the end, and there's a moderation team.)

Outside of the manure pile of tumblr, there's more debate about BLM and police organizations than there is about ace people. Heck, there's more debate about Supernatural fans, who got priority over bi orgs for London Pride, than there is about ace people. If you think ace people are some sort of existential crisis for LGBTQ communities, you're fucking wrong.

So please, take this bullshit back to tumblr discourse where it belongs.

Meanwhile, I'll be running my congregation's booth at the Savannah Pride festival in October (since the heat index in June is sadistic here). Anyone is welcome to stop by for candy, including ace people and straight allies.

Edited 2017-06-18 05:30 (UTC)

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