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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-21 06:52 pm

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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-06-21 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I can only speak for myself. Hate ROn? No, Ron is awesome. But the ship? Yes. Because firstly, bickering relationships are rarely ever my cup of tea. They only work for me when the characters seem to enjoy the bickering (like, for example, Han and Leia). Ron and Hermione both seem to be miserable when they are fighting and bickering. It isn't something they do because they enjoy it, at least in my opinion. They aren't trying to challenge each other. They just simply don't see eye to eye. That kind of relationship is just something I really hate. I wouldn't say I hate it to the level of things like Draco/Hermione. But I do hate it.

But, for me, it isn't all Ron. They are both the reason why the relationship wouldn't work for me. They are great on their own, but together, without Harry as a buffer, they just don't work for me. I do ship the Trio together. But Harry needs to be there.
Edited 2017-06-21 23:32 (UTC)
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-21 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, that's very true. I think it may be that while banter in a relationship can be fun, bickering is less so...

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree. They don't quip with each other for fun. They literally just bitch and nag at each other. I don't see how they are compatible. It must be a struggle for them to even just be friends, but a married couple? Pfft.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This was what I was comin here to say, yeah. Like, I know couples fight, but they seem to fight way more than they don't, and they just... really don't seem to enjoy each other's company? It felt like they trauma-bonded in the midst of the whole mess, and that is demonstrably a type of relationship that's destined to fail.

I don't hate either of them, I think they're both great, I just think they're bad for each other. And I'm also not saying this because I ship them with other people (I don't), I just... can't see them working out. If they stay together for the long run, they'll be miserable forever.
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[personal profile] morieris 2017-06-22 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
^^^
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[personal profile] nightscale 2017-06-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't hate the ship but this is the exact reason it didn't work for me.

Honestly it felt like Rowling was trying to do the 'bickering couple' trope and didn't understand that the reason those ships can work is because both parties actually enjoy the bickering in a bantery way, whereas Ron and Hermione just came across as flat out mean and hurtful when they were doing it. There was no banter, there was no fun, they went for the throat because they wanted to hurt the other(which tbh I get the eye for an eye mentality but that's not going to work out in the long-run).

I'm not mad that they were end-game I just personally couldn't see their relationship lasting more than a few years before it imploded.
Edited 2017-06-21 23:55 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I like the Ron/Hermione ship, but I totally agree that the golden trio is best when it's the three of them balancing each other out.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2017-06-22 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, ia with all of this.

I don't mind it as a ship, but I don't find it interesting and I can't see how it would work out well in the long run.

And it's definitely not all on Ron. I actually think Hermione is the weaker link in the couple, because she's much more confident and much more arrogant in a way. Ron tends to argue from the position of being an emotional jerk, the side of "you hurt me so I'm mad at you", and he tends to take the more humble side in his arguments. He gets mad at Hermione bc he thinks she doesn't respect his rat or his feelings. He gets mad at Harry bc he thinks Harry is trying to be a stuck-up rich kid celebrity.

Hermione argues from the position of "I'm right bc I'm smart." Hers is more of a vindictive and self-righteous anger rather than wounded anger. (Harry tends to be mad in the same way as Hermione. They both tend to think about things in the same ways, which is part of why they stay friends even when Harry+Ron or Hermione+Ron are fighting.) But this means that she's not likely to admit she's wrong, and we see how she holds grudges and stuff throughout the books.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I've been in HP fandom for over a decade, and you've just made me really sympathize with Ron for the first time in ages.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
+100000

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
That being said, Harry and Hermione together has its own problems. Harry can be really vicious in a way I don't think Ron is, and he actually made Hermione cry after a spiteful rant in OotP, as I recall.

I agree with this.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
If they were having fun, it would be different. But there are some points where each seemed really hurt and upset by the other. I feel that, even as adults, they would be that couple that is always fighting about something, making themselves miserable and others around them uncomfortable.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Very, very good point. I never thought about it that way. I mean of course Harry needs to be there, but I never thought about their romantic relationship with Harry stepping back. Maybe they found their balance after getting together, but you have convinced me that having them become a couple was unnecessary.