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⌈ Secret Post #3822 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I 1000000% agree. It's honestly baffling to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I can prove, using canon, that Ron is worse than Voldemort.

Voldemort has a crippled soul from being born of rape and splitting it using murder. Ron is a natural ginger.

Case closed.

[morieris]

Ron was always my favorite character & I don't get him & her together...I see how people like it. Ron isn't a bad guy, Hermione isn't a bad girl.

[feotakahari]

I've been told that a lot of it relates to British prejudice against Ron's socioeconomic class. I'm not sure how that spread to America, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't care for any of the eventual pairings, but I don't get the hate either. I would have preferred Harry end up with Luna, because she actually seemed to 'get' him. The rest seemed too incestuous. Why would Harry or Hermione need to marry Weasleys? They were already founf family.

[(Anonymous)]

It feels like a lot of the people I see online like three things about Harry Potter, pretty much exclusively:

1) Hermione Granger
2) Harry/Draco
3) Remus/Sirius

and that's it. and there's just no obvious place to fit Weasley into any of those categories. so outside of Ronbledore jokes, there's just not a lot for them to get attached to. It's unfortunate.

[sarillia]

I've only recently realized how much I like this ship. I rarely look for fic that focuses on them, but I've noticed that if the two of them are paired with other people in the background then the fic is a harder sell for me.

[(Anonymous)]

I've always been neutral to both characters and the pairing, but I've never understood why the fandom puts Hermione on a pedestal and trashes all over Ron.

[(Anonymous)]

I love Ron he tries his best and it makes me sad that he got/gets hate

Also probably part of it is cause the movies really downplayed a lot of Hermione's flaws.

[(Anonymous)]

I never had any strong feelings about ships in this fandom, but I don't understand the hate, either.

We see them from the age of 11 onward, and childhood and one's teen years are awkward and weird and full of not being not being as cool as the teens on the Disney Channel, so it strikes me a a bit cruel to judge characters entirely and forever on the basis of who they were age 11-17. Unless a person was a complete asshole - which Rom wasn't - then you've got to cut them some slack. I wasn't anyone spectacular when I was that age, either.

We don't know much about the adults Ron and Hermione grew into, but I just assume they grew into adults who were still compatible with each other, because that's what the story suggests happened, and because it is something that occasionally happens in real life.

[ketita]

I think that what frustrated me the most about Harry and Ron regarding Hermione was how often they seemed to treat her like a know-it-all or just generally not appreciate the bookish parts of her personality.
As one of those types of girls growing up, I found it kind of sad to read. Especially because you know what, I had friends who were not NEARLY as bookish as I was, but sometimes they'd be like "Hey, Ketita, come here and tell us cool stuff about space" or whatever.

I may be misremembering the books - it's been a while since I read them - but as somebody who like waxing eloquent about stuff, I can't imagine being married to somebody who found that trait obnoxious or boring. Which is one of the reasons I wasn't crazy about the Ron/Hermione ship.
But I don't hate it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't hate Ron/Hermoine because he's unworthy of her. I don't think either character is better than the other. I just like the idea of female and male childhood friends having non-romantic relationships. Making it romantic frankly cheapened it for me.

[philstar22]

I can only speak for myself. Hate ROn? No, Ron is awesome. But the ship? Yes. Because firstly, bickering relationships are rarely ever my cup of tea. They only work for me when the characters seem to enjoy the bickering (like, for example, Han and Leia). Ron and Hermione both seem to be miserable when they are fighting and bickering. It isn't something they do because they enjoy it, at least in my opinion. They aren't trying to challenge each other. They just simply don't see eye to eye. That kind of relationship is just something I really hate. I wouldn't say I hate it to the level of things like Draco/Hermione. But I do hate it.

But, for me, it isn't all Ron. They are both the reason why the relationship wouldn't work for me. They are great on their own, but together, without Harry as a buffer, they just don't work for me. I do ship the Trio together. But Harry needs to be there.

[(Anonymous)]

Ron the Death Eater is a trope for a reason, but I don't think most genuinely believe that Ron was evil. I think they just exaggerate their negative opinions of him because they're frustrated by the direction the writing took. You don't have to think a character is literally/canonically evil in order to hate them.

[dahli]

Posted in the wrong thread, posting in the right one now...

It could be several things, like shipping her with other characters or the fact that a lot of people just self-inserted as Hermione and thought Ron was not worthy of her. (Not saying this is always the case, but just from what I've seen from afar).

Imo she was very flawed (self-righteous, stubborn as hell, etc.) but Ron was the one that always got the short end of the stick.

[ninety6tears]

I ship them but I have to admit they argue quite a lot, and that's one of the common problems people have with them.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get it either. They are both flawed, just like Harry, but they obviously respect and care a lot about each other. I really love J.K Rowling portrayal of the Golden Trio's friendship. It was very organic and realistic and not overly idealistic and perfect like a lot of fantasy stories tend to do.

I always felt Ron and Hermione were always an old married couple long before they actually got married. I've been loving that ship since the 3rd book.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't hate that Ron and Hermione ended up together, or that Harry and Ginny ended up together, but I don't particularly like that they did, either. Of them all, I only really shipped Hermione with Krum, but it wasn't a huge deal that they didn't end up together, I just thought they were cute. Pretty much all the canon endgame romances in Harry Potter except Bill and Fleur, who I liked, made me go "meh, whatever." I don't think romance is one of J.K Rowling's strengths as a writer.

[(Anonymous)]

I once noped so hard out of a fic that had Ron grab Hermione's hand, out it on his junk and told gruffly told her to "make herself useful." And this was after a ton of jerky behavior that bordered on abusive.

[(Anonymous)]

The Ron/Hermione pairing is the only reason that I could stomach Hermione most of the time. The know-it-all aspect of her personality drove me up a wall; there are ways to give out knowledge without this attitude; I've known quite a few people that can pull it off.

Looking at you, Bill Nye!

By the time that was toned down enough to be stomachable, she damn near became a Mary Sue. One of these days, someone will write a kick-ass girl/woman that's actually balanced, I hope.

So, I don't understand the Ron hate at all because he was just the normal kid to me; the one that we should all relate to because he wasn't super special like Harry and Hermione, and even the rest of his siblings. Sometimes, he was an ass; sometimes, he knew the perfect thing to say/do, like most of us.

But maybe that's why he's hated so much; because people relate to strongly to him and they wanted to be one of the special people in this world...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't get it either. I've always liked Ron quite a bit & I never actually shipped ANYTHING in HP, so I don't even care who ended up with whom.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, this takes me back to the days of perpetual Ron-bashing fanfic where he becomes a bigoted, self-absorbed, mouth-breathing, food-gobbling troll of a person.

[(Anonymous)]

Part of it has to do with the movie version of Ron's character where he doesn't really do anything or contribute anything to the trio, and his best lines are even sometimes given to Hermione. :/ A lot of people identify with Hermione, and find it insulting to have her end up with someone so untalented, unmotivated, and mediocre as movie!Ron, which I can understand.

That said, abusive/Death Eater!Ron headcanon existed in fandom early, before the movies had had that much influence, so it obviously can't be pinned entirely on the movies. I actually always thought a "Ron goes legit dark" (not just tempted but joins the Dark Side and fights against Harry) storyline would be super fun and interesting to explore in fanfic (there's lots to draw on in canon like his jealousy and insecurity), but I never got people who were actually convinced he was abusive or that JKR was planning on that direction for him. Were we reading the same books? Did people miss all the interviews where JKR said she based Ron on one of her closest friends? Or that she was obviously angling for Ron/Hermione as end game since Book 1? Ah well.

[mimi_sardinia]

I am not a fan of the pairing, but hate? I don't feel a fictional pairing is worth putting the energy in to hate. There is also a lot of other things in the world I don't feel worthy of putting the energy into hate, so it's really me not feeling like hating anything.

I just never felt a strong enough connection to Ron really get any positive feelings about him and Hermione, I have similar feelings about Ginny but feel she has even less connection with Harry than Ron has with Hermione.

But my over-all manner of dealing with a pairing I am not interested in is to say "Meh" and go hunt down something else that I do like. Ship wars are just not my thing.