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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-21 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3822 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always been neutral to both characters and the pairing, but I've never understood why the fandom puts Hermione on a pedestal and trashes all over Ron.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-06-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I partly blame the movies turning Hermione into a generic Strong Female Character and Ron into generic Comic Relief.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)

^ This is it exactly. Both the screenwriter Steve Kloves and most-common David Yates ADORE Hermione (in a slightly creepy, fetishtic way) and are Harmony shippers, so they managed to squeeze a ton of Harry/Hermione subtext into the films that wasn't in the book. They also put Hermione on a pedestal in a way that completely obliterates or excuses any of her canonical flaws and gives most of Ron's best moments from the books to Harry and/or Hermione instead.

I personally have always adored Ron and personally love him even harder out of spite for all the hate that he gets. I just find it odd that people are able to understand and excuse Harry and Hermione's realistic moments of spite and teen angst but god forbid Ron and/or Ginny have actual human emotions some of the time.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
THIS

I will never get over Ron being the one to panic in the first movie over the Devil's Snare. It really did a disservice to both characters.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2017-06-22 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
So much this. To me, that scene is worse than "HARRY DID YA PUT YA NAME IN THE GOBLEDAFIYAAAA!!!?!?!" from the fourth one. It's like, way to shit all over Ron's character.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Yes. YES. All the yes. What a wonderful comment. It's why I don't like the movies except 1&2 which were faithful and 6 which was silly fun. It's why I stay far far away from the fandom.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The movies were TERRIBLE on that front, yeah. It probably colored the thinking of some people, even if they'd read the books first and knew that it's not really accurate.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. Not just for this. I sometimes lurk when I see HP-related discussions and so many times I see movie scenes stated as fact from the books. I hate it so much but even if you try to correct them there's just no end to it.

Still beats using headcanon as fact.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
The movies definitely make her more "perfect" than her book counterpart. Her book counterpart could be overbearing, sometimes wrong, and pushy about things despite being brilliant. The movies portray her as the most gifted young witch who can do no wrong.

The movies left out the whole S.P.E.W thing. It showed her heart is in the right place but she was kinda overbearing to the point of annoyance.

To be honest Ron finally openly showing his support of the house elves is what made Hermione want to kiss if if I remember correctly.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
i think it's because most of the fandom wants to be hermione, not ron. she's "ugly" as a kid and then turns beautiful and is desired by the best quidditch player in the world and she's a nerd but that makes her smarter and better at everything than anyone. ron is... the loyal everyman. he ain't no wish fulfillment and his flaws are much more relatable. that's my theory

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like Ron and I totally get the hate people have for him, but I also don't like Hermione, so to me they are perfectly matched.