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⌈ Secret Post #3858 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

Transcript: To (some in) the Doctor Who fandom:

[quote] “I didn’t cast a woman...I cast a man. I didn’t [cast a woman] because I wanted to cast Matt Smith and I wanted to cast Peter Capaldi. I didn’t think it was a terrible idea [to cast a woman], I just thought, ‘I want to cast those people’ – that was it.”-- Steven Moffat on BBC Radio 4

Steven Moffat had every opportunity to cast literally anyone but a white man as the Doctor while he was running Doctor Who. But he chose to cast white men as the Doctor.

The BBC didn’t tell Moffat to keep casting white men as the Doctor. There are shows on the BBC that ARE lead by characters that are not straight white men.

Stop hailing Moffat as some sort of “visionary” who “pioneered” the way to a canonical female Doctor. And stop saying he gave Chris Chibnall the idea to have a female Doctor. Chibnall wanted a female Doctor. MOFFAT DID NOT.

Re: Transcript by OP

[(Anonymous)]

I can get what Moffat was saying in that quote -- that he pictured certain people as the Doctor, and so he cast them -- but by extension it seems he never looked at a woman or a PoC and thought "Wow, they'd make a great Doctor."

(I had that thought every time I read an article about Maryam Mirzakhani that used that one picture of her.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/maryam-mirzakhani-becomes-1st-woman-to-win-fields-medal-1.2734950 )

[(Anonymous)]

Emphasis on the "some"

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure what your point is, other than that Moffat cast the actors that blew their auditions out of the water, and spent the last several years laying the canonical ground work so that Chibnall could cast a female Doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

no one can blow an audition out of the water if they're not allowed to audition in the first place

[(Anonymous)]

That's hardly his own invention though. The Doctor had always been a white man before Moffatt ever took over but I never see complaints about anyone else.

Also you suddenly brought sexuality into it. Do we know for sure that every actor who's played the role has been straight? To say nothing of how that has no impact on the role and I doubt it factors into the casting.

[philstar22]

This. I feel like Moffatt gets far more than his share of blame for so much of Doctor Who. RTD had problems too. Old Who had problems. Moffatt isn't the devil who brought prejudice and other bad things to a once perfect or almost perfect show.

[(Anonymous)]

But Moffat's practically taking credit for it. The swine.

[(Anonymous)]

https://stillnotshakespeare.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/moffat-mocks-female-doctor-who/

[(Anonymous)]

I've always been pretty neutral on Moffatt, so I'm getting annoyed at being repeatedly told why I need to hate his guts.

[dancing_clown]

Your ragey capslock is kind of a stretch. Because it doesn't sound like Moffat DIDN'T WANT A WOMAN!!! It sounds like he wanted those particular men MORE.

[(Anonymous)]

That is certainly what he (Moffat) is intimating, but it is impossible to determine how much he actually did want a woman.

[(Anonymous)]

https://stillnotshakespeare.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/moffat-mocks-female-doctor-who/

[(Anonymous)]

It's true that he didn't actually cast a female Doctor, but I still think the groundwork he started made it seem inevitable and natural within the context of the show, and I think that's valuable. Plus, John Nathan-Turner or Russell T. Davies also could have cast a female Doctor but didn't...

[arcadiaego]

RTD explicitly said that casting a female actress would distract people by making them think about the Doctor's genitals. I have no idea if he still thinks that, or what his view on Thirteen's casting is.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess all this hate on Moffat is because he's a rich cis het man, right?

[(Anonymous)]

I dislike him because he's annoying and not a very good writer, personally.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate how his plots are less clever than they think they are, and lack of followthrough. Also he thoroughly ruined the weeping angels.

[(Anonymous)]

Some of them are RTD/10th stans too.

[arcadiaego]

Nah, it's probably because a) he wrote Sherlock b) he always appears to be very pleased with himself and c) he has a tendency to be astonishingly tactless in interviews. (Full disclosure: I'm a huge fan of his work on Who.)

[(Anonymous)]

I always felt like Moffat wrote 11 like his self insert fantasy so of course he wouldn't have wanted a woman in the role.

[philippos42]

It wasn't until Moffat's run that the show even acknowledged Time Lord regeneration could change sex. Before that, it was "Time Lords" and "Time Ladies" consistently.

Louder for the kids in the back:
It wasn't until Moffat's run that the show even acknowledged Time Lord regeneration could change sex. The groundwork he laid made this transition a lot easier.

[arcadiaego]

To play devil's advocate here, it's unlikely that he would publicly say if anyone among TPTB hadn't wanted a female Doctor. On the other hand it is possible to praise what Moffat has done re. gender roles in Who while at the same time asking why he didn't just cast a woman in the first place. Clearly the writing in the show is evidence that he's not a knuckle dragging sexist prick but it did seem like pandering. On the other hand it's hard for me to like the idea of canon without Matt and Peter, so. idk. Anyway, I very much doubt given the level of fandom hate that Moffat will be remembered fondly, so in the long run it doesn't really matter.

[(Anonymous)]

All of this morality purity bullshit is ridiculous.

Hey, Moffat: cast who ever the fuck you want!