[ SECRET POST #3861 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3861 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/gDBM1gG.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Being butthurt about fanfiction has always confused me.

Canon's always gonna be canon. There's no harm in non-canon existing.

[(Anonymous)]

I can sort of understand that from a legal standpoint. Don't want a fan suing you because your canon story resembles their fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Do writers just assume fans lack the intelligence to tell the difference?

[were_lemur]

I can only hope that one day, my own original writing will inspire someone to write fanfic.

[randomdrops]

I can kind of see it. If someone's interpretation is way off from what you created or intended, I can see getting kind of possessive and "That's not who he is!" type of thing. What I can never understand is voicing those annoyances publicly and making a spectacle of it. Just....why?

[(Anonymous)]

I always thought Hobb was against fanfiction because it was probably better written than her own Fitz novels.

[(Anonymous)]

Writers can be super protective of their creations. You invest so much of yourself in the process, it is understandable.

[diet_poison]

I don't get the word "protective" here. Fanfic doesn't undo or destroy canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Understandable to an extent, but there's a huge difference between being invested in and protective of your creations, and 'fanfiction is literal identity theft', a la Hobb's rant.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a writer and I don't think it's understandable at all. I think it's pathetic to get up-in-arms about fans celebrating your work, and being so into it that they want to write their own fanworks (or make fanart) for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Writers can be. But let's take a look at the list of writers who have denounced fanfic that we know about other than Robin Hobb. People like Anne Rice, Anne McCaffery, Mercedes Lackey, GRR Martin. (And there are others.) They share one thing in common, they are of the same generation where someone DID take one of them to court to sue them over a fanfic being too similar to one of their books. That's why "Due to legal reasons" most writers don't read fanfic of their own works. It's a legal bogeyman for them!

As a published author who has grown up reading and writing fanfiction, I'm not as protective of my characters. (That no one is reading because marketing is hard y'all.) I know that if my works got popular that I wouldn't be able to keep the fandom from writing slash of two of the male characters or two of the female characters because I wrote chaste kisses as part of the whole culture I've created. It amuses me. It doesn't upset me.

As a writer and a person who has read a myraid of AUs, I know that I can't even be remotely protective of the basic concept. I don't own my concept. (And the stories I've heard about other authors getting pissy if their agents accept anything remotely close to their concept to the agent's list.)

More and more authors are coming out of this pool of young people who have grown up with fanfic or have written fanfic. So, hopefully this attitude about the 'purity' of canon from authors versus fanon and headcanons will be reduced.

Personally, as an author, I don't have the time or energy to care if a 'fan' of mine wrote something with slash in it. I have to invest my energy into writing and promoting my works!

[(Anonymous)]

Can be? Maybe. Should be. Nah. And I say this as a writer.

Would I be upset if someone took a character I made and completely twisted them into something unrecognizable? Probably. But at the same time, if someone touching the things you've let out into the world for people to enjoy bothers you, then don't go searching for fanfic. Pretend there's no such thing and move on with your life.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, that's really pathetic of her.

[(Anonymous)]

I just think it's kind of hilarious how aggressively hetero she tries to make Fitz. The more she does it the more my brain goes HMMMMM.

Geez, lady, just calm down. It's not the fans' fault the canon romance was terrible.

[sadiesockmonkey]

Right?

I know nothing about this series, but the passage OP included is just peak "The lady doth protest too much."

Honestly, "What we had went beyond that" sounds even gayer than the idea of these two characters having homosexual sex. It sounds like romantic soulmates who were star-crossed lovers.

[(Anonymous)]

It's pretty funny because I'm not into slash but the canon seems like it's written to provide tons of slash-friendly inspiration. SO much hurt/comfort, soul mate bonding... They have a child together, ffs! Kind of. But totally NOT in a gay way, according to the author. It's hilarious.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know anything about the canon here, but maybe by "improper" he meant "I'd have been cheating on your mother if I'd had a sexual relationship with him."

[(Anonymous)]

Doubtful. This isn't a traditional family set up. The father and mother weren't married at the time. The mother wasn't aware that the father was still alive, and she had remarried and had children by another man.

[(Anonymous)]

“What we had went beyond that. Our love was thousands of times bigger, our Proper Love, than the biggest worldly love in the world. The one thing I would say — and I say this to people — I never realized how big it was. I really just see the bigness of it all today, but also the responsibility. And the human responsibility. You have to love people. And if you love people, such a big responsibility. I'd give us an A.”

[tentaclecore]

Beautiful.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, I've never had any intention of reading these books because someone I know is being so fucking obnixious about them.
So all I know about these books is vague osmosis from her endless tweets (seriously, 20-30 tweets at a time are not unusual. Just write a fucking blog entry will you?) an I muted her a while ago. So ... I was led to believe that this "Fool" character is very ambiguously gendered. Is that true?

[(Anonymous)]

"So ... I was led to believe that this "Fool" character is very ambiguously gendered. Is that true?"

That is correct. There was, at least in the early books, a fair amount of subtext as to Fitz's feelings about the Fool. (I haven't read the later books; Hobb just got too keen on stomping on any previously achieved happy ending and I couldn't take it any more.)

As you know, Alice,

[(Anonymous)]

It is very common in western societies to see affairs between men as improper, and this may simply be respecting the setting. It's very likely also that it's playing to whatever part of the audience don't feel the need to turn everything into yaoi.

[(Anonymous)]

Dunno who she thinks she's kidding. Fans aren't reading it for her sparkling prose. It's because it's as slashy as all get-out. Being cynical, she doesn't want to alienate a conservative audience so she hedges her bets and you, the reader, can go with the Fool being male or female or NB and she can have plausible deniability. Going by the final book, I think she kind of came round to it though.

Me, I just go "eh, Fitz isn't a wholly reliable narrator when it comes to personal feels at lot of the time" whenever he has a "no homo" freakout and leave it at that.