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I have a rant, and I figure others might.

Argh. Author. Your inadequate warnings are worse than no warnings at all. You did warn for rape, but you also warned for "consensual underage sex."

Except, your 15 year old character has been so abused he barely speaks a word and acts more like 5 or 6 than 15. That's not consensual. I don't care if he's an Omega and needs sex (this is one of the reasons I usually avoid ABO, but it was a pairing I like and the warnings specified consensual). Still not consensual for the older character to take him up on it, especially as it happened pretty much right away with no therapy or anything other than a bit of physical healing with the doctors. WTF?

I'd rather you say Author chooses not to warn. Don't pretend something is consensual when it isn't. Ugh.

Urg, I'm sorry OP. That should have been labeled dubcon at the very least.

I forget if it was properly warned for in later tags since when there's a lot of them I don't always do more than skim, but I once saw Obi-Wan/Anakin tagged with underage clicked assuming they were setting it when Anakin was 17ish and being safe with their tagging. NOPE he was 9 and freshly rescued from slavery. The backbutton was my friend there.

Tbh, there's a pretty big difference between consensual/non-consensual labelling in fanfic vs. real life. Or I shouldn't say it's different, exactly, but if I saw a "non-con" warning I would expect to see a clearly forced rape scene or at least clear indication that one of the characters doesn't want it or is coerced into it. A character actually wanting it, no matter their mental capacities, doesn't strike me as a "non-con" warning for fic unless, say, there is later a portion where the character does consider themself to be raped (like drunk sex followed by a character coming to consciousness and clearly feeling shocked and horrified by what happened) - or the narration is focused in on the person having sex being predatory.

Not that there's no freedom to discuss consent in fandom, but fanfic warnings aren't only warnings, they are kink tags and general categorizing methods as well. It's not really a statement on real issues of consent. I don't know the fic in question, but if a abused character really wants sex, and someone has sex with them, it's at least shallow consent and therefore I'm not sure it merits a non-con warning.

It's especially worth noting that when fanfic uses supernatural scenarios (like omega-verse), we can't really judge it by real life criteria. Plus, while you can argue it's dirty and predatory to prey on a teenage character without a childlike mentality, in the context of fiction, can you just deny that character any agency over their own sexuality?

So anyway, you probably will disagree with my opinion, but I don't think fanfic tags even remotely have the capacity to demonstrate issues of consent beyond a very superficial level (especially in the context of romance fic, which is well-known for being murky in that area). Personally in real life, I don't believe minors can "consent" to sex with adults, but in the context of fiction, a 16-year-old having enthusiastic, "consensual" sex with an adult wouldn't be correctly labelled "non-con" because that isn't the focus of the scenario at all. Without reading the fic you described, a dub-con tag might've been a better fit in this case, but I wouldn't label something non-con unless the characters are specified to not want it, or the narration otherwise indicates it is non-consensual.

I would actually have been fine if they just put underage sex. It was the specifying of consensual that bugged me. Better to leave the warning out than to put something that is blatantly wrong. If not non-con, then at least there was some dubcon going on there. It certainly wasn't clearly consensual as the warning claimed.

Ugh, inaccurate warnings are the absolute worst. I once reported an AO3 for being tagged "no archive warnings apply", when it in fact contained rape. Like, a lot of rape. Pretty much all of it involving at least one minor.
The mods contacted the author, the author didn't respond, the mods changed the tags.

No, no I don't have to "examine why I like something" just in case I only like it because society has conditioned me to like it. Like, way to invalidate a woman's agency in the name of feminism.

This sounds massively juicy. Care to elaborate?

Eh. Not really. Just typical posturing about perceived misogyny in fiction.

Which fiction? Which misogyny? I must know.

This. I don't care if society conditioned me to like it either, as long as liking it isn't going to hurt anyone. Nobody's taste develops in a vacuum, and liking things is good and healthy. And in fandom, it's rare that people will like things they would have hated if it weren't for "conditioning." People hate things that are supposed to be aimed at them all the time.

The reason no one likes your art is because it's very generic and all the characters look the same. If you didn't specify which characters they were I'd never know. You CAN draw, you just need to develop your skills more and stop giving everyone the same face.

It's always a little awkward when someone is whining that their work isn't more popular when it's because it's subpar. I follow someone who complains about other fics getting more kudos/comments/reblogs even though they have a high follower count when their fics aren't that great. They are poorly written and include unpopular tropes (teenage pregnancy happens a lot in their fics).

I should also note that they are obviously producing content because they like to do it and I am not about to shit all over their fun.

I really dislike all the "big name" fans who like my favorite character. They all like the same pairing (which I used to actually like) and they are all so annoyingly condescending. They think they are the only ones who truly understand the character and everyone else only likes the character for shipping reasons. Of course they realize their own hypocrisy and say they like the pairing because it's the only pairing that treats the character right.

They are also good friends with a person who threw an absolute shit fit when someone else tried to do a fandom week for their pairing.

The recent horror threads have given me a massive urge to read some Poe or King. But I know that would probably be the worst thing for me to do to myself right now. But I want to. Damn it, I want my horror.

I am so fucking tired of artists on Tumblr whinging and bitching about people not reblogging their art. Specifically, the ones who don't want you to like their art if you're not going to reblog it. I'm quite serious, I've seen that several times. All this "Look at how many likes it got vs. how many reblogs! If you really loved me, you'd reblog my work! Reblog my work! Do it now!", and I'm just sitting here going, "Shit, maybe they just don't like your work that fucking much, okay?"

Yeesh, yeah, that kind of behavior is never going to come off as anything but crazy entitled, even if you like the artist's work.

I'm an artist on tumblr and I honestly appreciate anything nice- likes, kind comments, reblogs, heck I am even fine with reposts as long as I am sourced.

Reblogs are great and help my following grow but I'll never be mad at anyone who doesn't reblog. I don't understand the mindset of people who take it that seriously. You can't force these things.

It's especially great when it's a mutual (bonus if you also know them irl) and they go on and on trying to guilt trip you into reblogging their shit and you actually do it... yet they never even once reblog your own stuff.

I'm so tired of (romantic) relationship dynamics in fiction. I get that healthy, happy relationships are considered "boring" and therefore pretty much never happen (or, if they do, they don't last for long; they have to break up or have an annoying on again/off again thing going on) in TV shows/movies, but damn, I'm tired of it. I can only think of a few examples of happy, loving couples where there was mutual respect and no drama (or if there was, it wasn't about the relationship), and in every one, either the show was canceled or one of the characters was killed or they broke up or SOMETHING that kept them from having a happy ending.

I know fiction is not reality and all that, so this is stupid, but for some reason it makes me feel less hopeful about finding a happy relationship myself someday. :(

I think as long as you don't follow the model of anything resembling Romeo & Juliet, or where one or both of the people are emotionally immature, or where either insists on keeping one or more psychotic or pathological individuals in their lives, you'll probably be okay.

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