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05. [SPOILERS for Project Runway Season 16]



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[personal profile] fscom 2017-10-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
05. [SPOILERS for Project Runway Season 16]
https://i.imgur.com/8c8s9Ko.jpg

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
How was she cheating?
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
She had a tape measure and was measuring her own clothes while not in the work room (i. e. the house the contestants live in while filming). Then use those measurements in the work room to construct a garment. Also a lot of her clothes were very similar to things she or her model owned or wore.

Personally? I don't think her sister helped her cheat, I think she purposefully cheated to get kicked off and thus not continue without her sister.

But yeah, the season is better now that they're gone.
Edited 2017-10-20 23:42 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So it is against the rules to measure clothes outside of the work room? Just making sure I understand.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-20 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. ALL work must be done in the work room. No sewing, sketching, or anything outside of the work room, between the designated work/filming hours.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Are they not allowed to use existing clothes as a reference or was it just because she did it outside of the workroom? Or was she trying to hide she was doing it to look more skilled?
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-21 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, there's more too it than that with the twins. The one in the picture (Claire) is objectively the more skilled twin, and was constantly helping her sister (Shawn) construct, plan, create garments, right down to deciding fabrics for her. So Claire had little time to do anything and she usually came out with pretty good stuff. It was more than just bouncing ideas off each other, Shawn was sucking time and energy and skills from Claire. So I don't think Claire realized she basically made a knockoff of pants she wore 3 days ago, or a version of the same top her model was wearing.

At one point they had to face off against one another without being able to help each other and Shawn just stood there helplessly crying at her dress form while Claire worked and spouted encouragement to her twin.

Shawn apparently seemed to realize she was a hack and couldn't cut it without Claire and threw in the towel and ceded the "win" to Claire, who was off the following episode for cheating.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
She was talking like a petulant child when Tim outright asked her about using/owning a tape measure outside of the workroom and she was acting incredibly entitled about it like "omg it was just an TANK" while ignoring that measuring stuff wasn't the issue, doing it outside the workroom was. It was a bit like watching a little kid getting caught doing something naughty and being made to apologize. So I don't really think she did it on purpose.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-21 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fair. "It was just a TANK" came across as self-defense of Margarita accusing her of ripping off the tank Margarita had made the previous challenge. Personally I didn't see the similarities and neither did the judges.

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[personal profile] fscom 2017-10-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The way the twins left the show could not have been any better. One left in tears, and the other got caught cheating (which I'm sure her sister was helping her with), lost her win (plus money!!!) and left in disgrace.

I could not be more gloriously satisfied. I've watched this scene three times already.

(S.B: Wow, kind of petty and mean. But I'm so happy my fav show is free of these OBNOXIOUS people.)

P.S. I love the look on her face when she realizes she admitted to cheating and screwed herself, pictured here. :D
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-10-20 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt bad for her. I actually got the impression she didn't realize it was cheating. Should have read the contract better, but still. And Michael was such an ass about the whole thing that he's become the one I hate the most this season.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
If you haven't seen this week's episode yet, I think you'll like it. O:)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-10-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't, but I did read spoilers and smile.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
On season 3? I think it was where one dude got sent home for having pattern books, several contestants talked about how the rules are explained to everyone really clearly, at length, with examples, so everyone is clear. Any cheating really is cheating.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-10-20 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't pleased. Honestly, the whole situation was obnoxious as hell. Yeah, they were annoying, but I really didn't appreciate how the production kept on drumming it up for attention. I watch PR for the clothes, not the stupid drama. If the show was honest, they should've kicked her out the moment they knew about the cheating, not played the whole game just to milk it.
I'm really quite disappointed in this season. It's getting really cheap.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, yes. On the other... For five or however many weeks we're rooting for them to finally fuck off, because the show is supposed to be about design, not drama, but now there's nothing to be emotionally invested in with PR. The talent pool is not great, there is exactly one outstanding designer, except having seen the finale collections I can't even get excited about him. On everyone else the judges' opinions this season are deeply incomprehensible. Brandon's one-note aesthetic has overstayed it's welcome, Kenya is frustrating because she's lovely but hasn't made anything beautiful, Ayana just hasn't got the taste to work with large amounts of different textiles the way she likes to: her looks are always a weird jumble, and Margarita's villain edit feels unfair and I want to like her, except she keeps saying these things and making mediocre clothes.
I don't know what it is, maybe the show is being weird because everyone is uncomfortable with the diversity angle after all and don't quite know how to handle it. But this is the worst season, worse than 14.
FWIW I'm willing to forgive their stumbling attempts to make a diverse show but I'm not gonna pretend it's fun to watch.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-21 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Diversity angle?
Explain?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
The emphasis on using models of different sizes.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2017-10-21 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Though I feel like there's other attempts at diversity too. I didn't see any of the ads for this season, but I heard that outside of the show proper some designers were being positioned as explicitly non-gendernormative. I'm not gonna argue that Ayana is any kind of "diversity hire", but she does bring an unexplored demographic to the show. All of that are good things but fashion is an industry that could be argued to be inherently about normativity and convincing people of the need to fit into a certain mold. So you could see where some of their awkwardness around trying to be respectful comes from. That's obviously not a criticism of the show trying to do right.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they actually grouped up the designers based on background in the first episode, and there were four genderfluid ones, though I'm not sure they used that word. Most of them got kicked off early.

I thought Ayana was chosen pretty much for being Muslim, but I've been pleasantly surprised by her talent.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2017-10-21 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That's so weird, I haven't really liked any of her fashion. The textiles rarely look harmonious together and the hijab is ALWAYS the odd thing out in her outfits, like a poorly considered addition. It's not a great representation of modest fashion IMO, because it literally looks like the bad stereotype that people picture of just throwing on whatever for the sake of covering up.
Though I can see how maybe this is my European-colonized taste speaking, and these things are different to people who grew up with another aesthetic sensibility. And she really can construct a good top.
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