[ SECRET POST #3950 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3950 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The CW's Dynasty, 2017]


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05. [SPOILERS for Blue Reflection]



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06. [SPOILERS for Great British Bake Off series 8, Pastry week]



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07. [WARNING for underage]



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08. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual harassment? (and actual serial killer necrophiliacs)]

[Netflix Mindhunter]


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09. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual assault/abuse]



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10. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual assault/abuse]



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11. [WARNING for possible discussion of abuse]

[Bates Motel]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #565.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, no offense, but isn't this incredibly common, inside fandom and outside? Like it definitely seems like one of if not the most popular dynamics in M/F shipping and porn fic. An extremely large number of women seem to be into it.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, where have you been? There's a strong streak of judgment in fandom and even here on FS where people criticize ships that are problematic or unhealthy. People will imply (or straight up accuse) that liking problematic ships must make you a pervert or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, first of all, i think it's a little more complicated than that? For instance its different for different kinds of problematic?

Second, that doesn't really change what I said about it being popular, I don't think

[(Anonymous)]

Are we limited to only making secrets about rare opinions? Don't forget that harshly judging people for their shipping preferences is also extremely popular.

[(Anonymous)]

Is there something wrong about saying something is popular?

[(Anonymous)]

No. I'm just getting a weird "why is this a secret" vibe off your comment when you say "I mean, no offense, but isn't this incredibly common, inside fandom and outside?" I'm not sure why that's relevant, tbh. Even if OP's preferences are popular, they'd still get plenty of grief about it from a very vocal segment of fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

No, sorry if it came off that way. I wasn't really trying to say it wasn't a secret - more that saying it was common would be taken as some kind of an insult I guess?

I'm sorry if it's an irrelevant response. Dunno what to tell you. It seems like a reasonable response to me. There's a lot of it out there.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I guess I don't really understand the point of your original comment then. The secret doesn't claim to be an unusual opinion so bringing up how common it is, in your opinion seems... out of left field?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry. It was just what I thought when I read the secret - that a very large number of people seem to feel the way that OP does.

[(Anonymous)]

Well. Okay. But so what? I don't mean to sound rude, but secrets don't have to be about minority opinions or rare opinions, and OP never claimed their preferences weren't also held by a significant number of people. That's why I thought you were questioning the legitimacy of the secret - because you brought up a topic out of nowhere, and prefaced it with "I mean, no offense"!

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Meanwhile, in the real world non-niche normiesphere, young naive woman getting "taught" and "broken down" by older experienced man is one of the most normalized, accepted, and played out tropes in the entirety of the human race. Quit acting like your kink is actually persecuted, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. How about you stop acting like an utter asshole about other people's kinks instead.

[(Anonymous)]

Stop acting like you're a poor oppressed victim for liking the most entrenched, normalized kink of all time. God forbid one niche little facet of the world actually point out this kink is, y'know, a little fucked and problematic. You still see this young innocent woman/creepy Alpha Olderman McChad literally everywhere in normie media, so stop whining.

[(Anonymous)]

of course it is, but there are plenty of places in fandom now where dub-con and age-difference would be treated as synonymous with rape and pedophilia, and being openly turned on by that makes you less than human.

Antis don't care how common or understandable something is, they're only interested in tearing people down.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just kind of confused here? All I said was that it was common

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

But what's that got to do with anything?

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I assumed we were discussing why OP would consider this a secret *shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

Common, maybe (sadly, imo, and a product of the constant suppression of women's autonomy and self knowledge). But please spare us "women love this irl as well as fic" - that's sexist as hell, and I also bet far less common that men who want to keep women dependent, cowed and submissive/ignorant want us all to think.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I see an alarming amount of women who like this shit. Though I wouldn't have an issue with women liking this stuff if men weren't such fucking "hurrr literally all women secretly want to get raped and ddlg'd durr" assholes about it. Either way, I wind up feeling bitter and resentful to both men and women. I realize these are irrational and unfair feelings to hold, but goddamn, do I loathe everything about our society when it comes to sex.

Interesting to note though is that I've seen in various sex related polls that men prefer being sexually submissive almost as much as women. Small comfort in thinking humans as a whole prefer being submissive.

[(Anonymous)]

How in Earth is it sexist to say that a particular sexual dynamic is popular?

[(Anonymous)]

In the Earth that plays up the myth that it's the norm, desirable and assumed that all women want it.