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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-30 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The reason you feel it's not the same is because of benevolent sexism.

Your feeling is well-meaning, but still inherently sexist. And benevolent sexism can be the most harmful.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
How... is it benevolent sexism to go "it's creepy when a guy says this because guys still largely hold power over women?"

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Benevolent sexism is exactly that - refusing to hold women accountable for creepy behavior in the same way that you'd hold men, because they are more ~powerless~ or some shit.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
.. .

how

....what

this doesn't make ANY sense if we're still talking about gal gadot's comments? i don't even know where to begin.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Would it be creepy if a man said it? Yes? Then there you have it. Benevolent sexism.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Towards someone of the same gender? I don't think so. There you have it: not sexism at all.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean....

I'm not necessarily saying I disagree, but it is broadly the case that men are advantaged and have access to various forms of power in our society to an extent that women don't

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree and I feel that stamping the "benevolent sexism" label on everything feels like it's ignoring this

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It may be true that men have access to power that women do not. But that has nothing to do with the fact that women can be sexual predators. Women who rape and sexually harass others are RARELY taken as a serious threat. You have stories about female teachers raping elementary school students who just get suspended, and the victims are told they should've enjoyed it. Benevolent sexism allows women to get away with sex crimes and sexual harassment, and it is not any more okay than when men do it, period. It sounds an awful lot like you're arguing that because men are "advantaged" and women aren't, it's somehow less bad when women do these things.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Your benevolent sexism analogy would work only if Gal said that in reference to a kissing scene with a male actor. I don't think most people would find it creepy or in any way comparable to child rape, if a male actor said the same thing Gal said, about a kissing scene with another male actor.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, because homosexuality is treated like a joke. Thus, the threat of same sex harassment isn't taken seriously either. That just makes it benevolent homophobia if anything.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-01 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice try. You're still not going to convince LGBT people that expressing LGBT interest is homophobic.

+1

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
seriously wtf am I missing?
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[personal profile] supermanda 2017-10-30 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you be able to elaborate on that in the context of this secret?

Not disagreeing with you! I'd just like to dig into that a bit more. I'm definitely not one too stubborn to deny my own ignorance, should I become aware of it in any given situation.