[ SECRET POST #4016 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4016 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Intelligence, The Romeo Section]


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[American Vandal, Sara Pearson/Mr. Kraz]


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[Winona Ryder]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Bring It On]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why did that make you lose respect for her?

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Considering the FBI concluded there was no real threat behind gamergate, it looked attention-seeking/playing the victim card. (I, too, am oppressed! Welcome me with open arms!)

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

she's a woman in the geek community. it's really weird that you pretend that she has nothing to fear or feel discriminated about.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

She doesn't. Not from being a woman in the geek community anyway. Geeks are the most chill people you'll ever meet.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

This does not match my practical experience at all, and it does not seem to match a lot of people's lived experience at all.

To be clear, I don't think geeks are particularly worse than anyone else, either. People are people.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think it's possible for someone to be scared for reasons other than being in immediate danger of murder?

I mean, I know that I have been in my life, and I think I can understand being scared of a vituperative, insane Internet hate machine.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

My point was that gamers are no more likely to threaten or harm her than anyone else. As a celebrity, I'm sure she has freaks who send her stuff. But there's no reason to believe that gamers in particular are worse, and reason to believe they're largely no different than the rest of the internet ... you know, that insane Internet hate machine you mentioned.

Additionally, the FBI recommends not responding or mentioning threatening material that is sent to you. It just encourages the behavior, just like publicizing mass murders increases the odds of another mass murder in the next six weeks.

So the only GOOD reason she could have brought it up is to play the victim card. Or she was dumb enough to talk about it despite the FREAKING FBI recommending otherwise, increasing the odds of getting MORE threatening material.

Could she have felt threatened? Sure, I guess. But why point out gamers? Why talk about it all, against professional advice? Either way, she doesn't end up looking good.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

My point was that gamers are no more likely to threaten or harm her than anyone else. As a celebrity, I'm sure she has freaks who send her stuff. But there's no reason to believe that gamers in particular are worse, and reason to believe they're largely no different than the rest of the internet ... you know, that insane Internet hate machine you mentioned.

This is disingenuous. The reason that she said she was scared of gamers was connected to the fact that there was a specific Internet hate machine whose whole self-conception and purpose was built around their idea of being gamers. That's who scared her, that's why she said she was scared of gamers. That was a thing that was happening, and it was a very remarkable thing in the context of the Internet that a lot of people noticed as being distinctly toxic, and apparently it frightened her, which doesn't seem unreasonable.

Additionally, the FBI recommends not responding or mentioning threatening material that is sent to you. It just encourages the behavior, just like publicizing mass murders increases the odds of another mass murder in the next six weeks. So the only GOOD reason she could have brought it up is to play the victim card. Or she was dumb enough to talk about it despite the FREAKING FBI recommending otherwise, increasing the odds of getting MORE threatening material.

I can think of plenty of reasons why someone would want to talk about that stuff. Like maybe she believed that it would encourage people to stop doing all of the Massive Internet Toxic Hate Machine stuff.

Also: I'm not sure what we're getting mad at her for now. Is the problem that she claimed to be scared of gamers when she shouldn't have been? Or is the problem that she legitimately was scared of gamers, but it was wrong for her to say? Those two things seem somewhat contradictory - if she was lying about being scared, then that's wrong on its own, and you don't need to talk about how she shouldn't have told anyone about it. And if it's the second one that's true, it seems really fucked up to cast Felicia Day as the one in the wrong for being frightened. The worst you can say about talking about it, in that case, is that it was unwise. But that's not the same as being wrong.

I think the only people for whom she "doesn't come off looking good" are people who are committed to finding reasons, either to dislike her, or to justify a partisan position in favor of Gamergate. That's how it seems to me, at least.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but I'm baffled that you think it's weird that Felicia would say something like that, when gaming communities are full of loudmouth sexist assholes and as a celebrity she's already got to keep on guard. It's not her fault she feels threatened.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I've never heard that FBI recommendation before. When bad things happen to someone, it's pretty common to want to talk about it to someone, get it off their chest, or to get support when they're feeling scared. For you to not understand that is pretty ignorant of basic human reasoning. As another female gamer, I can understand why a prominent woman in the industry would be concerned. Your lack of sympathy is worse than anything she's done.