[ SECRET POST #4018 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4018 ⌋

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Comments

[mrs_don_draper]

I'm curious about which shows you're watching. I know exactly what you mean though. Even the more progressive/open-minded shows had some seriously cringey moments/episodes.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been watching Quantum Leap for the first time - some of the social commentary hasn't aged well, but the parts that have aren't because they're flawless, but rather because even through the lens that nearly two decades have passed, they were visibly trying. I'd rather have progressive if misplaced than thoughtless, any day!

[mrs_don_draper]

QL is a great show! And when it aired in the late '80s and early '90s, it really *was* progressive. No other shows were discussing and confronting issues in the way QL was. I know they used terms that are now considered "unwoke," but I know there was no malice meant in any way at all.

The fact that some topics in QL are handled in a cringey way (looking back) just shows how far we've come on those topics! :)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, I remember back in the day there was an episode about saving a gay sailor from being murdered in a queer bashing, and it was... Like, I lived in the middle of nowhere and the queer people who might have been around me were limiting their visibility just to have a life in a small conservative town, and that was a big fuckin deal to young I-don't-think-I'm-straight me.

QL might not have gotten everything right, but they really did try and it was great for that.

[(Anonymous)]

I recently started rewatching some of Smallville (so, not even a super old show), and in the first episode, Clark finds Lana in the graveyard talking to her parents' graves, and she pretends her father is asking Clark questions. First, her "dad" asks Clark if he's having girlfriend troubles. Then her "dad" asks Clark if he's having boyfriend troubles. And for like 1.5 seconds I was like, "Way to go, show! You were ahead of your time!" But then Lana laughs and says her dad has a "twisted" sense of humor.

I was just like, WTF? Did the show seriously just call it "twisted" that a guy could conceivably be having boyfriend troubles? Yes, yes it did.

I mean, I'm sure there are plenty of way worse examples, but I was genuinely startled by it, because that wasn't even very long ago, and yet by modern standards it's like, "How did you guys think that line was cool"?