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[ SECRET POST #4026 + 4027 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4026 + 4027 ⌋

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[House MD & The Good Doctor (both developed by David Shore)

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[Jodie Foster]

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Bit early today to make up for yesterday!

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It feels like opinion falls into two camps with the Thor films: those who love the first two and hate the third and those who hate the first two (but especially the second) but love the third.

And I'm over here being a fan of all three. Even though I was so over the Earth parts of the second film it still has a lot of aspects of the Thor franchise that I enjoy. The third wasn't what I expected but as I had a good time overall I wouldn't even say I was disappointed, just wished a couple of things had been done differently. So I think I get why you wouldn't like it at all.

Hey, I'm a fan of all 3, too! I LOVE the 2nd one, but weirdly enough, after being anti-Thor/Loki for the entirety of my involvement in the fandom, this movie had me wanting to get into it! And then there as how meh I felt over Hulk lately, and I felt like he had the most character development he's had in a long while in this one. I was really pleased.

I honestly don't think I'd love the Thor films as much if it wasn't for the dynamic between Thor and Loki. I really liked Ragnarok because of the fact it offered the possibility of them being proper brothers again but oops that post-credits scene and a certain part of the IW trailer. It was fun while it lasted! For all of two minutes.

I've never been a huge fan of Hulk but the fact he got some meaningful screen time for perhaps the first time since that one solo film really helped me "get" him. I also enjoyed Banner, especially little things like seeing Loki for the first time in years and generally being bewildered by it all.

I like all three but from best to worst (for me), is it 3, 1, 2.

This probably how I would rank them too tbh! I sometimes feel like I can't separate 1 and 3 but 2 would definitely be last because for me 2 is just mostly ok. The only part I could watch over and over without getting bored is the 15 or so minutes of Thor and Loki featuring prison break bickering session.

I'm one of those who didn't like the first, hated the second, but loved the third movie. I didn't care at all for Thor or Loki before watching Ragnarok, and I'm quite okay with that changing all because of one single movie.

Yeah I think your first paragraph is pretty spot on. I follow a few Thorki bnf types on tumblr and I don't think any of them liked Ragnarok, and that's definitely how I feel. They're very different movies.

I had hoped to like three, and ultimately it might grow on me. Who knows. I'm glad there's people that like all of them, though.

It's definitely a massive tonal shift and it took me watching it a second time to embrace it. The first time I watched it was opening day in the UK and it was one part over-hyped excitement that I finally got another Thor film and several parts of not really knowing if I liked the new direction.

I've noticed a lot of Thorki shippers didn't like it but also Loki fans in general. I'm an unapologetic Loki fan but I feel like the very least he deserved was getting his arse kicked around a bit after all the shit he's pulled. I was completely fine with him getting a break from being angsty as well. It wasn't my favourite interpretation of him but I do prefer him as not 100% good nor 100% evil so pre-credits Ragnarok ended in the right place in terms of my personal wish list for the character.

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I like all three movies, though the 2nd is the bottom of the three for me, but hey everyone's gonna have different views and opinions so it doesn't bug me if people feel different, or if people only liked the characters at this movie(much like how everyone loved Cap in TWS but he was pretty much ignored before then, it was a bit lonely being a fan of his prior to Cap 2 :P).

I loved the first and the third, but hated the second. I thought that was the common opinion lmao

First film reactions seem mixed in fandom spaces. Tbh as a fan of the trilogy it kinda pisses me off that there seems to be this revision over the past couple of years calling the first Thor a "bad" MCU film. At the time it was reviewed quite well. It has decent scores on sites like Metacritic. Not a bad film by any stretch. Yet it has become a thing in the MCU fandom to say it was terrible for some reason.

I think my original comment was more that overall there's the 1+2/3 split in either direction of love and hate with outliers. But for sure the first Thor is held in higher regard than the second!

I'm definitely in the second camp. (Noticing those two camps too.)

They tried too hard to turn Thor the righteous but adorable doofus of the previous movies, in to just your standard quippy action douche bro, imo.

That mostly worked, non surprisingly.

I enjoyed the movie, but in that opening scene, it didn't feel like I was watching Thor. More like I was watching Tony Stark or Peter Quill in a Thor suit.

Yep. It was down right predictable.

"He's gonna be talking to a bug or a corpse or something. Yep. There we are. Oh now he's gonna say exactly what he's gonna do, then do it..."

This was the first Thor movie I'd ever seen. It didn't thrill me, gotta tell ya.

Hmm, yeah. It felt like someone said HEY Guardians of the Galaxy is super popular and Thor isn't so let's make Thor more like GotG! And it worked. Mostly. But I came out of it with no different opinion on Thor, I still think he's boring and don't really care about him one way or another, and maybe don't like Loki extra hard now. I like Valkyrie, though. So there's that.

I enjoyed Ragnarok a lot but the first Thor movie is still my favourite, probably at least in part due to the whole 'it was first' goggles. But I also didn't really go into Ragnarok with any expectations of character growth/development and was mostly after a fun-time, which I got.

And I got a bonus of some great Thor+Loki shenanigans and Valkyrie who I loved. And Hela being a lot of fun too.

I don't think this movie was dumb Thor. He was funny but also intelligent.

+1. My thoughts, as well.

Yeah, I feel u OP. I really didn't like Thor 3. But my problem with it wasn't so much that it was too funny or anything. I mean I thought it wasn't a very good movie in terms of the balance of humor vs plot and I thought Valkyrie was honestly so goddamn boring etc. But there was a lot about it I did like.

But my main problem with it was the way Thor's character is treated. He's been out actually hunting down infinity stones and getting shit done. Then he finds out his brother is still alive, and then he's got a surprise crazy sister, and then his dad dies, and then he's taken as a slave, and his powers are taken away, and his hair, and his hammer is destroyed, and he's put in a position where he's helpless and can't do anything to stop the horrific shit going on, and no one cares or is willing to help him, and then his people are massacred, and then his homeland is destroyed. And there's not one thing on that list that isn't treated as 100% a joke or somehow "justified" because.... Thor's a prince and colonialism is bad?

For any of the movie to work, I have to totally turn off my brain and pretend that a) Thor apparently no longer has emotions and b) pretend that the previous two movies didn't exist. Because there's just this insurmountable wall of cognitive dissonance between the first and third movies. In Thor 1 Loki turns the bifrost against Jotunheim and it's horrifying. Then in Thor 3 Asgard is destroyed and... haha here's some jokes and don't worry Thor will be totally fine, look at the pretty fire works! smh

Fully agreed. It was actually kind of frustrating that at its core, the movie's plot was actually kind of grim but it got lost completely under the whole "Let's make every scene a joke! Every. Single. One." thing...

A lot of this plot would have been great if Thor actually reacted much to anything, but yeah, everything was played as a joke...in the MCU franchise that should get the most free reign to be melodramatic, really.

It's an okay movie but a terrible Thor movie. Thor felt OOC in almost every possible way.

And I hate that if you talk about how there's no humanizing under the constant jokes people are like "You just don't get New Zealand emotional humor." Really, cause I'm usually a Waititi fan, I just don't think what works tonally for Hunt For The Wilderpeople fits with this franchise at all.

I love all 3 for different reasons (they're all very different films). I was afraid I wouldn't like 3 for many of the reasons you (& others) stated, but for some reason, it worked out for me.

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