[ SECRET POST #4026 + 4027 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4026 + 4027 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Bit early today to make up for yesterday!

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Comments

[sparklywalls]

It feels like opinion falls into two camps with the Thor films: those who love the first two and hate the third and those who hate the first two (but especially the second) but love the third.

And I'm over here being a fan of all three. Even though I was so over the Earth parts of the second film it still has a lot of aspects of the Thor franchise that I enjoy. The third wasn't what I expected but as I had a good time overall I wouldn't even say I was disappointed, just wished a couple of things had been done differently. So I think I get why you wouldn't like it at all.

[mudousetsuna]

Hey, I'm a fan of all 3, too! I LOVE the 2nd one, but weirdly enough, after being anti-Thor/Loki for the entirety of my involvement in the fandom, this movie had me wanting to get into it! And then there as how meh I felt over Hulk lately, and I felt like he had the most character development he's had in a long while in this one. I was really pleased.

[sparklywalls]

I honestly don't think I'd love the Thor films as much if it wasn't for the dynamic between Thor and Loki. I really liked Ragnarok because of the fact it offered the possibility of them being proper brothers again but oops that post-credits scene and a certain part of the IW trailer. It was fun while it lasted! For all of two minutes.

I've never been a huge fan of Hulk but the fact he got some meaningful screen time for perhaps the first time since that one solo film really helped me "get" him. I also enjoyed Banner, especially little things like seeing Loki for the first time in years and generally being bewildered by it all.

[kaijinscendre]

I like all three but from best to worst (for me), is it 3, 1, 2.

[sparklywalls]

This probably how I would rank them too tbh! I sometimes feel like I can't separate 1 and 3 but 2 would definitely be last because for me 2 is just mostly ok. The only part I could watch over and over without getting bored is the 15 or so minutes of Thor and Loki featuring prison break bickering session.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm one of those who didn't like the first, hated the second, but loved the third movie. I didn't care at all for Thor or Loki before watching Ragnarok, and I'm quite okay with that changing all because of one single movie.

[soldatsasha]

Yeah I think your first paragraph is pretty spot on. I follow a few Thorki bnf types on tumblr and I don't think any of them liked Ragnarok, and that's definitely how I feel. They're very different movies.

I had hoped to like three, and ultimately it might grow on me. Who knows. I'm glad there's people that like all of them, though.

[sparklywalls]

It's definitely a massive tonal shift and it took me watching it a second time to embrace it. The first time I watched it was opening day in the UK and it was one part over-hyped excitement that I finally got another Thor film and several parts of not really knowing if I liked the new direction.

I've noticed a lot of Thorki shippers didn't like it but also Loki fans in general. I'm an unapologetic Loki fan but I feel like the very least he deserved was getting his arse kicked around a bit after all the shit he's pulled. I was completely fine with him getting a break from being angsty as well. It wasn't my favourite interpretation of him but I do prefer him as not 100% good nor 100% evil so pre-credits Ragnarok ended in the right place in terms of my personal wish list for the character.

[soldatsasha]

Yeah all of the people I follow are afaik Thor fans first and foremost (which is what I am, though I love Loki too). I haven't seen any diehard Thor fans who liked how they treated his character. I'm not surprised if Loki fans didn't like it, too, since it was a little lackluster for him. I know a lot of people were hoping for a lot more focus on Thor and Loki in the final movie (just like people wanted for Steve and Bucky in CW and didn't get there either).

I liked that he got kicked around a little, since it was overdue. But I thought he needed a little more emotional payoff than he got. It felt to me like Loki's arc wasn't really resolved, just kind of set aside and ignored in favor of jokes.

[sparklywalls]

I keep hoping we'll get more of an emotional pay-off with Loki doing something good with little regard for himself to help others (but especially Thor) for the first time in years in IW. Loki just lost his home too and it'd be true to most interpretations of the character to want the universe to survive so that he can continue messing around with it. But the way fandom is carrying on (acting like he's a dead man walking within the first 5 minutes) and also the lack of him in any of the set photos/promo stuff compared to other characters makes me think that won't happen. At least there'll always be fanfic.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Marvel movies IMNSHO have a really bad problem incorporating Draco in leather pants into the script. Characters do horrible things, and then end up buddying up with title character without much of the way of consequences or reflection.

[nightscale]

I like all three movies, though the 2nd is the bottom of the three for me, but hey everyone's gonna have different views and opinions so it doesn't bug me if people feel different, or if people only liked the characters at this movie(much like how everyone loved Cap in TWS but he was pretty much ignored before then, it was a bit lonely being a fan of his prior to Cap 2 :P).

[(Anonymous)]

I loved the first and the third, but hated the second. I thought that was the common opinion lmao

[sparklywalls]

First film reactions seem mixed in fandom spaces. Tbh as a fan of the trilogy it kinda pisses me off that there seems to be this revision over the past couple of years calling the first Thor a "bad" MCU film. At the time it was reviewed quite well. It has decent scores on sites like Metacritic. Not a bad film by any stretch. Yet it has become a thing in the MCU fandom to say it was terrible for some reason.

I think my original comment was more that overall there's the 1+2/3 split in either direction of love and hate with outliers. But for sure the first Thor is held in higher regard than the second!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm definitely in the second camp. (Noticing those two camps too.)