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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-09 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4055 ]


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07. [SPOILERS for Daughter of the Lilies]



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08. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual abuse/etc]

[Kate Winslet]


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[personal profile] fscom 2018-02-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
08. [WARNING for possible discussion of sexual abuse/etc]
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[Kate Winslet]
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[personal profile] morieris 2018-02-09 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
All that posturing and she didn't even get awards attention.
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[personal profile] gelertcrumpet 2018-02-10 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think that has anything to do with the climate and perception of people working with Allen (which obvs isn't that much of a big deal, it seems, but I saw more blowback against Winslet than I've seen for anyone working with him in years), or was it just that she wasn't great in the film?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think it's a combination of factors.

* The tide of public opinion is turning, what with the Weinstein scandal. It's kind of awful that it takes a critical mass of negative feelings building up before people sit up and take notice and go, "Oh wait, yeah! Sexual abuse allegations ARE bad and they SHOULD stop!" but there you go.

* Woody Allen's children have been more vocal in recent times about what exactly went on, and that makes a huge difference.

* Most people don't give a shit about Woody Allen films, so they don't necessarily see it from the actor's POV which is wanting badly to work with a famous, critically lauded director. I'm not saying they're wrong, mind you. I'm just saying it's easier for people to say nobody should ever work with Allen or see his films than it is for them to say that of a director with more mainstream popularity.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
The film was shit

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
People would have excoriated her no matter how she handled it. I totally understand why celebrities are wishy-washy on issues like this.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ehh. I think I'd rather be criticized for coming out and saying that I didn't want to work with Woody Allen because of the sexual abuse allegations. I mean, if it is as you say and you're going to get excoriated no matter what, I still think that's a better choice than staying silent and letting people assume my tacit approval of a sexual predator.

The exception I'd make is for struggling actors who are outgunned by people like Woody Allen in terms of influence over their careers. But Kate Winslet is definitely not in that category.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Congrats on your moral superiority.
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[personal profile] supermanda 2018-02-10 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Having her cake and eat it too is definitely what this is.

I don't know if you follow Kate Winslet at all, but she is always pushing hard for awards. Which is fine, she is an actress after all, but look where it's gotten her. I don't doubt that she doesn't actually care about the accusations; her heart is obviously where the money is, even if she has to work with a piece of shit to get there.

I think Selena Gomez is on that same line of thinking tbh. I don't think she's after awards lmao but she has definitely been trying to steer her career more towards film, and she has been trying for almost ten years.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I feel the same - say what you want about Dianne Keaton supporting him, but at least she is saying it outright. Not this wishy-washy attitude actors in his films have had for years.
Sure, they are doing it just for their careers, but I have more respect for Keaton than I do Winslet; Timberlake or whoever else is starring in his films and not having an opinion just to save themselves from the fallout from supporting him.