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Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

If you could time travel, but weren't allowed to change history at all, where would you go

Re: Time Travel

[kaijinscendre]

100 years in the future to see what is going on.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

As a non-white non-straight non-religious person, uh... nowhere in the past, that's for sure.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, you could still visit.

It's probably a slightly incorrect estimation of the past to assume that all human societies before the present had shoot-on-sight orders for anyone who was non-white or non-religious or didn't fit into 1950s heterosexuality. And it probably lends more validity and "naturalness" to those categories than they really deserve to assume so.

Yeah, it would be shitty to live in. And I don't want to erase that reality, but at the same time, most of the past would have been significantly worse than the present for anyone to live in to start with, even before you get into the historical injustices and oppression perpetrated against racial, sexual, and religious differences.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

There is more to surviving in a different time period than "shoot on sight" and its a bit insulting to reduce it down to that.

Sure, I could go to historic China and pass myself off as a cishet loyal Confucian servant in terms of appearance. Except I live in the US and English is my main language. I don't speak Chinese. I'm not familiar with the traditional customs.

Good luck me.

Where do you propose I go in the past that's any better than the present?

Re: Time Travel

[thewakokid]

Oh, well if you only want to visit cultures you already belong to then yeah, time travel might not be for you. I don't think I that's a race / orientation thing, tho. I'm a straight white male *Lightening strike* and I don't think I would thrive in just about any of the historic periods of time where straight white men did rule. I think the whole "You can time travel" hypothetical comes with the expectation that communication barriers don't exist.

I feel like I might be trying to convince you to play a game you don't want to play. Like trying to play volleyball with Edward Scissor Hands. You're game is more "Lets see how many beach balls I can pop"

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I know it was a bit reductive, but I don't think that your post wasn't reductive either, so, you know, fair enough I guess. And the language barrier is a problem, sure, but not an insurmountable one, and it's not like a language barrier doesn't exist today if you're a tourist.

I'm definitely not trying to argue that the past was better than the present. I don't think that's true. And I'm not trying to frame the conversation around where you could survive. What I'm asking is where you'd like to *visit*.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I don’t speak Chinese today and I’m not familiar with the local customs. I’ve visited China several times.

I would need to do more research and preparation if I travel to another time, but if we’re going to be talking about time travel like it’s Tourism Extreme Edition anyway then I see no reason why survival on a visit is such a big deal.

Re: Time Travel

[thewakokid]

Well, I mean, nowhere in western Europe, sure, Britain, France and the like. There's a period of america you'll want to avoid, but prior to that you might be ok. I mean, White straight christians have not been oppressing the whole world for it's entire existance.

A lack of hygiene, however, has been oppressing the ENTIRE world untill very recently. I wouldn't even wanna go back 100 years to any place on earth, but that's another concern

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

Right, so as an English speaker, I'd be stuck to places where

A) nobody speaks English
B) nobody who speaks English views me as an equal

Is it that surprising I'd rather simply not go?

Re: Time Travel

[thewakokid]

See my above point. This whole time travel thing comes with certain expectations. Like, the expectations that you can communicate, and have a serviceable level of the local currency, and you are able to travel around. Like, if you want to be a real buzz kill, you cant just say "Send me back about 300 years" because then you'd be in the middle of space because 300 years ago the planet was not where it is today.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I would like to see what was going on with the Harappan civilization of the Indus Valley. If you're going to leave behind writing that no one can read, don't be surprised if time travelers show up to see what you were doing.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I would join you :)

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I would go see the original casts of a lot of Broadway/West End shows, and maybe some plays and operas. Definitely to see some original Shakespeare and Moliere plays. Lots of rock concerts. I’d film everything. And since you didn’t say anything about bringing stuff back, I’d gather seeds and cuttings from currently-extinct plants and tissue samples from extinct animals and give them to publicly-funded research labs working to combat extinction.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

ooooooohhh, Shakespeare and Moliere plays would be amazing

Also there are so many rock concerts you could see. I would kill to be at the Sex Pistols Free Trade Hall show.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—hmm. Would autograph hunting count as changing history? I’d at least get Terry Pratchett to sign some stuff if not

Re: Time Travel

[greghousesgf]

the 60's. I wanna hang out with the Beatles (not giving them any advice or anything so I'm not changing history)

Re: Time Travel

[thewakokid]

God so many places. I think I'd like to visit Egypt around the time all the cool shit was happening. I think I'd quite like to go get drunk with some vikings. Renaissance Italy for the women. 1930's / 40's Hollywood, again for the women. Hang about around the Kennedy assassination, see if I can spot anything wonky on the grassy knoll. I'd like to go see some original Wagner. Head back and see what the dinosaurs really looked like. Head forward to the Three Kingdoms period, and see of Cao Cao was really such a knob head. Back to England and see if Robin Hood was a real bloke and what he was really like. probably more stuff along the the lines of "What was Blank really like"

Outside of just quenching some curiosities, I think I'd do a tour of great storytellers. History is all well and good, but it's the myths that make a time amd place romantic. I'd want to hear the myths and folk tales and that sort of thing first hand.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

#1 would definitely be fin de siecle Vienna. Just such an intensely interesting and productive time and an interesting society to observe and a lot of beauty and aesthetic stuff and all of that. Pre-War Europe in general would be amazing to see, especially Eastern and Southern Europe, but Vienna would be top of the list.

Outside of that, definitely a lot of ancient civilizations - there's so little we know about what those societies were really like on a day to day basis. It'd be cool to go to, like, very late/early 19th century England and France and see the proto-Romantics and the french revolutionaries and all that stuff. And also I'd like to meet Napoleon. Maybe 1980s Hong Kong / Japan, see those financial bubbles.

Lotta places really.

Re: Time Travel

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Early jazz age, if language is not a problem, Paris.

Re: Time Travel

[rosehiptea]

Probably Regency England because I'd like to see what it was really like. Don't get me wrong, there were a load of aspects that sucked and I don't think I'd enjoy myself there for very long, but it might be fun to see it. (As long as I could get into fancy parties at least.)

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

Inspired by the discussions above: Tang China and the Silk Road cities and kingdoms at their peaks. also, 16th or 17th century Istanbul and Venice.

Re: Time Travel

[philstar22]

Civil rights era or early feminism or the early labor movement just to watch change in action.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

I would like to party with Benjamin Franklin.

Re: Time Travel

[(Anonymous)]

By all accounts he loved to party, so I’m sure it’d be interesting.