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[ SECRET POST #4138 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4138 ⌋

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the Incel Discourse

There really shouldn't be any discourse about it

I haven't been seeing any, which means I follow the right people

the people that I follow are usually telling other people to shut the fuck up about it. But it's definitely something that's out there - like, there was an actual NY Times editorial by Ross Douthat, stuff like that.

And the thing that's particularly frustrating is, like, there's an actual real underlying issue here - loneliness is genuinely a massive social problem IMO - and this is the worst, most useless, most harmful way to frame the issue. And even telling people to shut the fuck up about it - while correct and justified - cedes the framing of the issue.

Yeah, it's been all over The Guardian, I guess because it's proof that men are shite or something.

To be fair, it kicked off with a handful of incel sympathizers going postal, doing the death-by-cop thing, and leaving behind stupid manifestos.

Ah, well I'm genuinely confused what discourse we're talking about because all I've seen is The Guardian's toxic masculinity op eds. Though to be fair, The Guardian is my primary news source, and I don't really do social media.

Re: Stuff you're sick of

cbrachyrhynchos - 2018-05-04 01:31 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Stuff you're sick of

(Anonymous) - 2018-05-04 01:34 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Stuff you're sick of

(Anonymous) - 2018-05-04 03:13 (UTC) - Expand

Yes, but loneliness is suffered by both genders. But more often than not it is men who believe they are entitled to relationships with the women they pick (and would be offended by the reverse of course, because they can't see the hypocracy in calling women shallow while only going for stereotypically attractive women). And you don't have a right to a relationship. No one owes you anything. And that seems to be something a certain type of man simply doesn't understand.

IA, that's why I think framing the discussion around incels is a mistake and a bad, harmful, incorrect lens to use to talk about the actual underlying problem.

I'm fine with discourse so long as it doesn't involve "this is what happens when women don't spread their legs like God made them to".

This. I feel like there needs to be discourse about why men feel this way, open discussion, because otherwise you have the asshole who ran over 20 people (mostly women) down the street from me last week solely because he was an incel asshole.

You a Stacy?

Fuck you.

Wow, what brought this on?

Eat shit, you fuckfaced bag of garbage.

And people say incels lack social skills!

I'm literally a Becky and so old and out of touch that, after doing some light research just now, I'm wondering how and when I went from being the best cocksucker on the planet to being a basic bitch.

I remember Beckys. Ah, those were the days!

Making light of the excuse one of your kin used for murdering 10 people last week. Classy.

Making light of the excuse? It's a pretty light excuse.

One of my Kin? You mean incels? Nah, I get my dick wet much more regularly that even I want.

Last I heard the guy being an incel was actually a hoax.

TLDR: The whole things rediculus, I think it's fine to make take the piss. Plus Chads and Stacys are inherantly absurd concepts.

You're not funny. You're not clever or interesting in any way.

Literally none of that is true. Perhaps you don't understand. I'm mockingly suggesting that the person who is sick of incel discourse is an attractive woman who spurns the incels. Does that clear it up for you?

This is why people hate you, Wako, and want you banned.

You really will have to explain what about my post is so hate worthy. It's a dumb term used by incels. I call people Normies quite regularly and never get this reaction.

And people can want me banned all they... er... want. It's kinda not up to them.

But really I think people hate me and want me banned because I'm just too real for them.

People hate you because you're a self-important asshole who makes light of things he shouldn't, then whines that people just hate him because he's ~too real~. You have zero tact, put zero thought into anything, and think more with what's between your legs than what's in your head. Your post is hateworthy because you're making light of something closely related to real-world terrorist attacks, without a single goddamn thought, because you never think. You're the definition of "needs to grow up out of being a twelve-year-old before being on the internet."

Re: Stuff you're sick of

thewakokid - 2018-05-05 15:10 (UTC) - Expand

It would be nice if we didn't have to hear about it any more.

But until men stop committing mass murder because they feel entitled to sex and are angry that reality disagrees, that's probably not going to happen.

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