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[ SECRET POST #4146 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4146 ⌋

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[Alan Titchmarsh (British gardener and TV presenter)]

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[Fashion Doll Fandom]

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04. [SPOILERS for Infinity War]

[MCU (Natasha/Steve)]

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05. [SPOILERS for Infinity War]

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08. [SPOILERS for Alex Verus]

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09. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault and stuff]

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10. [WARNING for RL murder of children]

[Serial (podcast), real life murderer Yoselyn Ortega]

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11. [SPOILERS for X-Men/Phoenix Resurrection]

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There's set pics of him in his 2012 Avengers get-up so he's in a flashback or whatever at the very least (unless it gets cut of course.)

Honestly I'm not mad he died, it probably had to happen eventually really. But I AM mad at how shitty it was done...yet at the same time other Loki fans are making me hope he stays gone because the level of hysteria and delusion is annoying even me. I consider myself one of his biggest defenders (while also admitting he's still a little shit) but people saying his neck snapping was actually the gauntlet so he can't possibly be dead because his neck didn't break? People saying he performed some elaborate illusion even though NO illusion Loki has cast in the MCU has been solid/touched successfully by other characters? It's just getting too much.

I'd made peace with his death (even though I hated how it was done) and I don't think I can take another year of this!

Honestly...I love how he died. It reminded me of Anya's death in BTVS. There was nothing...'pretty' about it. It was brutal and really showed the cost of war.

I can actually appreciate that point of view because I DID like that he died a hero rather than a chronic backstabber like everyone (well, non-Loki fans) seemed to be desperate for him to do.

I think I just wish it had been later on and more of the other Avengers had got the opportunity to see this guy who fucked up their shit bizarrely being on their side now.

Also poor Thor. A lot of Loki fandom (the ones concentrating just on Loki) seems to be forgetting Thor in all this :(

I'm not sure hero is ever the right word for Loki. He's a mischievous little bugger who just has limits. Thanos, Hela, and the elves are limits for him. But the closest he gets to hero is anti-hero because he'd still betray Thor in a heartbeat if it was in his own best interest.

Oh yeah for sure I agree he's never been 100% pure hero. But he didn't die a villain either so that's more what was satisfying for me. Going back to his Avengers villain persona would've been more disappointing than him dying for me tbh.

Oh, yes, agreed. Loki is too complicated for that. And he's changed, he's grown, in his last few appearances. Plus, in Avengers he was working with Thanos against Earth. That's different from helping a Thanos who just killed his own people. He clearly cares for Asgard and its people.

I'm still bitter we didn't see Anya's death. At least we saw Loki's.

Well, you see her die. It is just quick and brutal and exactly what you'd expect in a real war. Not everyone gets a heroic death.

Do we? I haven't watched season 7 in a while, but all I remember is seeing her dead body.

Yeah, she gets slashed thru with a sword.

Anya's death was brilliant. It was definitely war. And since we know there's an afterlife in Buffy, and Anya was human for real and no longer a demon, I like that she gets to go to heaven and chill where there are NO BUNNIES.

YES, this is exactly what ran through my mind as well! It was a casualty and nothing else, which makes it all the more brutal.

Another version I could imagine apart from a flashback would be some time traveling shenanigans or something similar into the Avengers 1 timeline because that's the point when Thanos first started overtly messing with earth and there might be some Infinty stones related gambit to try and fix things.

But yeah, I agree with your comment so much.

I like to imagine Tony will get the gauntlet and rewind to: "I am Iron Man." But with full knowledge of what is coming and how to stop Thanos. It would be a poetic ending to stop where the entire franchise began, and exit on the cusp of a reboot multiverse.

I can't say I'd ever not be mad at Loki dying, but how early and brutal it was didn't sit well with me. Doesn't help that his death was a combo of two of my least favorite tropes (redemption death and fridging). I'm also mad we never got a Loki and Spider-man eating hot dogs scene. The MCU is 100% invalid now!

The theories don't bother me, but they do make me sad for the people who earnestly believe in them. You're just setting yourselves up more heartbreak, my dudes. That petition, on the other hand, pisses me off a little because all petitions are dumb and useless.

Edited 2018-05-12 00:44 (UTC)

Absolutely I try not to get mad at people who are just being hopeful but it's a bit full on (the petition is my main gripe!)

I honestly think whatever part he plays in A4 it won't be Loki as he was in 2018. The Russos have not said anything that suggests to me they particularly care for the character so I'm doubting they have some elaborate plan for him.

I also hated that he was fridged. Really pissed me off. I hope they do bring him back but by changing the timeline. Or alternate universe Loki would be cool (as long as he's still played by Tom).
But yes hated how they did it not thar he died

Loki wasn't fridged. He's not female. He also wasn't killed to motivate anyone -- no one requires further motivation to go against Thanos.

But he was. The Russo brothers said in a recent podcast that Loki (along with Heimdall and some of the Asgardians) were killed to motivate Thor to go after Thanos. Which is fucking stupid because Thor, like you said, needs no motivation to go after Thanos.

Fridging is a specific trope. It references the fact that women were so often killed to give men motivation. So I don't really think a male character can be fridged.

Yeah, for characters like Loki (male, powerful), getting killed is more for the purpose of showing the audience how strong the villain is. I'm sure there's a name for that trope as well.

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Aye I always thought that too, at least that was the definition I learned when I entered fandom ages ago. Loki was killed to motivate Thor but it was more just a plot-device (ymmv as to how lazy etc it is obviously) whereas Gamora is probably a better example of fridging in this film even though it was more to make the audience see Thanos's pain than motivate him.

Both those deaths kinda annoyed me though! For different reasons. I wonder if the Soul Stone plays fast and loose with the definition of love because Gamora was right "this isn't real love" - he loved the idea of her as his heir.

Absolutely.

Okay, but I'm still going to use the term because 1) there's no well known, simple term for male characters that I know of and 2) the basics of the term (characters died to motivation other character) still applies and can be understood.

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