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⌈ Secret Post #4197 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Aw, he's one of the few things about this film I kind of like.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Aw, sorry. I was predisposed to like him, but he just didn't work for me. It happens.

[(Anonymous)]

I started with the series and had a little bit of a hard time appreciating the movie because of how different it was from what I already liked.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Setting aside the characters created for the series, I felt that Spader's Jackson was fine--his bit correcting the translation on the blackboard is probably my favorite part of the movie--and the actress that played Catherine was delightful, but that's it.

Russell came across as a humorless robot who didn't want to be there (shades of Donald Sutherland in the original Buffy movie). Now, I realize that it's not fair to compare a movie portrayal to a series, but as I recall from the start RDA played O'Neil with a lot more humor.

And while I concede that Jaye looked nifty in most of the costumes, his delivery and body language just... did not work for me. After so many millennia terrorizing the Abydonians, you'd think he'd come across as a wee more arrogant. And yes, I guess he did suffer by comparison with Peter Williams, who served up such regal contemptuousness as Apophis.

(Late 90s Jaye would have made a splendid Dionysis, though, right?)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA, but considering that movie O'Neil starts out depressed and suicidal over the death of his son, it would have been kind of awkward for Russell to be yukking it up. YMMV, of course.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

So does series O'Neil, though?

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[(Anonymous)]

SG1 O'Neill has a purpose in life though. Movie-version was iirc just kinda sitting around with nothing to do but focus on his depression all day till he was yanked back into action. SG1 version is rebuilding his life and finding new stuff/people to care about. We do see that he has some lingering issues and grief (as who wouldn't) but he's moving forward with his life, so it makes sense that the drive and sass would be returning.

[(Anonymous)]

All I cared about when I watched it in theatres back then was that Jaye as Ra was super-hot.

[soldatsasha]

Same.

[tabaqui]

Fuck yes he was.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought he was so hot that ad soon as my underaged ass was old enough to rent rated r movies from Blockbuster I got The Crying Game just to see what the fuss was.

It was then I learned that "hot" was the only requirement I needed in a crush.

[(Anonymous)]

This was 90% of my takeaway from seeing this in theaters. (The other 10% was "Neat special effects!")

[tabaqui]

I loved him in that movie; he looked so awesome. Most of that movie was rather ridiculous, though the bits with the 'last symbol' being discovered and such were awesome (Spader was excellent). But the hokey camel-things and the little kids really got on my nerves.

That was the second and only acting job Davidson had - he was in 'The Crying Game' before that, and intensely loathed the 'fame' that came with movies, so he quit after that and did modelling instead.

[(Anonymous)]

I never saw the movie till YEARS after I had already been a fan of the show, and I don't really remember a lot about it since I fell asleep for part of it. It's important as an origin story but I'm not very interested in it for itself. IA that Apophis is best villain, lol. He is THE MOST DRAMATIC just like all of the time and it is amazing.

[sparklywalls]

He's not the best part of the film but he sort of worked for me as a Very Obvious Bad Guy. The only scene where I find it a bit OTT to the point of cringe is when he's using the ribbon device on Daniel but I don't know if that's the acting or the fact that ribbon device in the film is a bit shit...although the effect in the TV show wasn't amazing either but I just prefer it. I also prefer the overall look of the TV show prop.

The film has its place for me but the first S-G1 thing I saw was Children of the Gods when it premiered in the UK so I overall prefer the series. It being TV did mean they got to explore things a bit better so yes Apophis is just better because they could develop him more and do things like focus on the tragedy of the host's existence. You don't really get a sense of Ra's host (and how awful it is) in the film because there isn't the time.

My favourite System Lord is probably Ba'al though - purely because he makes fun of the rest of his kind for being SO overdramatic while at the same time still somehow embracing the theatrical side to the max.

[(Anonymous)]

I saw the movie first (twice in theaters) and really like Jaye as Ra in it. I found the idea of a beautiful male villain interesting and different.

When I finally got to see the tv series (which was a while after the fact, since it was on premium cable at the time) I didn't like it as much. The way everything looked like British Columbia was too different and made it feel smaller in scope. The CGI morphing helmets of the movie were so awesome, and the practical-effect helmets of early years of the show were so clunky and silly in comparison. I was also really turned off by the "Just because I keep my reproductive parts on the inside..." speech (thank goodness they made fun of that later). I didn't get into the show until quite late in it's run, by which time it had moved a long way from the movie and evolved into its own thing, so it was easier to enjoy it as a separate work (and it had moved to basic cable). I have no opinion on the bad guy, since I think he was gone by then.

He was playing it to the max.

[(Anonymous)]

It sort of worked for me, though, because that's how I would expect an alien pretending to be a god would behave. When they went to series, they softened some things, they threw some stuff away, and added new things, like you'd expect, but it was much closer to the movie than Buffy. But, really, I think what got it approved was more the concept than any individual performance.

[(Anonymous)]

I love everything about this movie. It's a completely different animal to the show, but I love it's cheesy scifi mixed with faux-Egyptian mythology and aesthetic. It's like Indiana Jones in its mix of action adventure and scifi and unapologetic cheese.

Also it has great sets and location filming, which I really miss in films.

(I loved SG1 and SGA too although for completely different reasons.)