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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-24 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4220 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Are we supposed to be able to guess why?
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-07-24 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
because she's not a cat haha

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
But some of her best friends are cats!

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Presumably because everyone hates Taylor Swift.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Taylor Swift isn't a strong singer, IMO. I don't hate her but unless she's part of the chorus, or if her voice is being dubbed over, then she should NOT be in this movie.

(I actually don't care whether or not she identifies as a cat :P)

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. If that's the way that you feel, that's the way that you feel, but one of those things is harmful in a way that the other is not.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for putting it more succinctly than I was going to.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither is harmful, though. The character in Rub and Tug is a historical person for whom there is zero conclusive evidence that was trans.

Sure, it would have been an awesome opportunity to cast a trans person, but saying it is offensive for a non-trans woman to play a character that may have also been non-trans isn't weird. And for that matter, it's not inherently a bad thing for a non-trans actor to play a pre-op trans person, either.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The character in Rub and Tug is a historical person for whom there is zero conclusive evidence that was trans.

This is something that I've seen said a lot here, and one point that I'd like to make is that, one, the initial reporting of the movie by sites like Vulture and Hollywood Reporter identified Gill as trans - Vulture says "transmasculine", THR says "transgender". Two, as far as I'm aware, the people involved in making the movie never actually made this argument. I mean, ScarJo's defense of taking on the role was "Tell them that they can be directed to Jeffrey Tambor, Jared Leto, and Felicity Huffman’s reps for comment", all of whom obviously played trans characters.

So I think this particular point is something of a red herring, because it certainly seems that at the very least the people making the film understood the character as trans and wanted to depict the character that way.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Which role will she get?

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Macavity

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-26 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I am 99% sure she's going to be Lily White Pure Victoria

(Anonymous) 2018-07-24 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Cats is largely a cabaret of mostly unconnected songs and very minimal plot. It's delightful to see theatrically for the performances, costumes, and acrobats. But I have no idea how it would make a satisfying movie.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-07-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You just described about half of the movie musicals ever produced.

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Idk she seems pretty catty to me

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I find it more offensive that they are making Cats into a movie than whether Tay is in it. She can have it, Cats sucks.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't.

Sorry, but Swift's casting makes perfect sense to me.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
She likes cats, she acts and looks feline sometimes and she can sing. Maybe she's not the strongest singer, but at least she can sing, unlike some people they cast in movie musicals. And, even when someone can sing, sometimes they'll bring in someone else to sing for them in movies.

Re: Sorry, but Swift's casting makes perfect sense to me.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-07-25 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I actually wouldn't mind a low-plot Cats movie, but I'm one of those nutters who goes to see Fathom opera events.

Re: Sorry, but Swift's casting makes perfect sense to me.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm not a Taylor Swift fan - I really don't listen to pop music at all - but she's got nice cat eyes. I'm sure she's a fine singer, too.

I'd prefer someone theatrically trained but okay, you want your A-list celebrity. And I'm sure she can sing fine, maybe not a Broadway belt but oh well.

Re: Sorry, but Swift's casting makes perfect sense to me.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard she's not that great without autotune...

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Let's hope she's gotten better at singing showtunes in the past nine years -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6TAZzOQWSY

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hopefully. That is an abomination unto West Side Story.