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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-08 02:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4357 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4357 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney had nothing to do with them canceling the Netflix shows. All of this is on Netflix. Nor will Disney carry them over because Netflix owns those shows and I doubt Disney thinks they will be profitable enough to buy back.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Where are you getting this information?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
From Netflix's mouth.

While many have feared that Netflix could lose the right to make and show the likes of Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, the deal inked means that’s simply not the case – Disney owns the underlying property, but the shows remain very much Netflix’s to do with as it pleases.

“As long as they keep making those shows, they continue on Netflix,” said Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos.

“Our Marvel series that Disney produces for us - we own those shows. They run until we cancel them.”


That was from a year ago. https://www.techradar.com/news/love-the-netflix-marvel-shows-dont-worry-the-disney-streaming-service-cant-touch-them

Also, anyone paying attention will notice that Netflix has been getting rid of any shows they don't produce. Hence why they got rid of American Vandal even though people love it.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure that's technically true, but I wouldn't take anything that a company says in a press release without a huge grain of salt, and I'm sure that even if Netflix does own the show, Disney can make it difficult for them to actually exploit those shows.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So...instead of actual words from Netflix saying so, you are just going to ignore that because "SCARY DISNEY!!!!"

Okay.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a press release, so no, I'm not going to take it at face value.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh look! Here is another source where both people from Netflix AND Marvel say that Netflix owns the series.

https://screenrant.com/disney-netflix-marvel-tv-shows-cancel/

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If one official statement didn't convince me, why did you think a second one would

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, forgot how hard it is to penetrate tin foil hats.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Why believe evidence when Disney is a money-grubberrrrrr?!?!?!?!

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I forgot we live in the age of feels > facts.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
More like, instead of trusting the bland, PR-friendly wording of a press release, they're going to acknowledge that there's a lot of show business decisions that are not discussed with the general public and it's really naive to think otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
protip: netflix can be just as shitty as disney. not every bad thing is disney's fault.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
True. Netflix is not a hero, and not everything is Disney's fault.

But when you look at what's in the financial interest of both parties, it seems like Disney has a much stronger financial incentive for these shows to go away, and Netflix has a stronger incentive for them to stick around. And to the extent that Netflix has an incentive to take them down, that's still primarily in response to Disney's actions in the space of putting together their own streaming service. So it seems to me that Disney is probably playing some role in driving these decisions, whatever they say.

And even then, that's not bad in itself. But when you put it into the broad context that this is part of corporate consolidation in the entertainment space, and the fact that Disney is one of the major actors driving that, it's no good. No good for anyone buyt Disney.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they don't. The Marvel shows cost a lot of money. Like...a lot. And they don't make any money. The Marvel shows are not nearly as popular as people on here seem to think.

Again, Netflix has been purging content that they do not make themselves. Unless you think that Disney is also the reason they canceled American Vandal?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
it's like when everyone here was outraged that they cancelled Forever and renewed Galavant on ABC despite the fact that Forever was a property split between ABC and WB so the rights were more expensive and it wasn't a dogfight between the two shows to begin with.

Netflix cancelling shows does not mean it HAS to be related to Disney's streaming service. the two things can be mutually exclusive.

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, I was completely wrong to even imply that Netflix was innocent. Oh wait, I never said anything of the kind... *shakes head*

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you made it clear you believe disney is the villain so gosh

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Netflix cancelled because Disney owns Marvel now and didn't want Netflix profiting from 'their' IP?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You know that Disney has owned Marvel for years? Far longer than the life of the Netflix shows.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that actually! Honestly I'm not very good at following which company owns/is owned by what.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Here is a infographic over who owns what.

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Marvel-Infographic-rights-2018.jpg

Disney has owned the bulk of Marvel since 2009.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, merci! :)

(Anonymous) 2018-12-08 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
When did Disney announce their new proprietary streaming service

(Anonymous) 2018-12-09 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
August 2017. Why?