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⌈ Secret Post #4399 ⌋

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[Cassandra Clare & her books: TMI/TID/TDA]

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[Canadian ice dancers Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir]

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[Charmed]

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[Criminal Minds - season 4, episode 8 "Masterpiece"]

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[Tidying Up with Marie Kondo]

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[Cassandra Clare & her books: TMI/TID/TDA]

I don't care either way about Claire, but in 2019, I'm fairly certain you can find other books with diverse protagonists like that.

Yeah I'm in my mid-30s now and I distinctly remember reading books with interracial couples and inversed gender roles (and a few gay/lesbian characters) when I was in my teens.

Likewise. Do I look back on some of them and cringe? Sure. But we did have them, and some of them were even good!

Exactly. Just off the top of my head, I can remember the Song of the Lioness quartet, the Dealing With Dragons series, some Mercedes Lackey stuff... it definitely existed and it wasn't like it was obscure, either. I found all of those things in my school library.

SKOOL

Shit, I read Animorphs. That series was fucking amazing.

tired: Claire

wired: Jemisin, Lord, Okorafor, Yang, Lee, Liu, de Bodard, Delany, Kuhn, Shawl ....

I would bet $1,000,000 dollars that you could find other similarly diverse fantasy books written by people who aren't plagiarists.

This. Maybe the characters and ideas and diversity are good and stuff, but... she's a huge plagiarist. I'd be very hesitant to give her the credit for creating the characters and such when there's such a significant possibility that they really belong to some obscure underappreciated author(s) who probably wrote an even better series in the first place.

Has there been any evidence she plagiarized her published books? She definitely did in her fanfics. And she's a generally terrible person. But I haven't seen anyone talking about her plagiarizing her published books.

I'd like to know this, too. DID she plagiarizer her profic, or just the fanfic? If it's just the fanfic, then hopefully she's learned her lesson and she's not doing it anymore. If it's both.....

It better not be both, that seems to me that it would make her editor and publishing company complicit or at the very least negligant.

Right?

Well, there's this. I don't remember hearing the outcome though

Did you mean to put in a link, or...?

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She's been accused of plagiarizing another author:

https://ew.com/article/2016/02/10/cassandra-clare-shadowhunters-lawsuit/

Huh. Seems it's all still up in the air. Sheesh. Have to read them to really know, I guess, but some details do seem really similar....

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Please, rec books in this vein here. Thanks!

I wish we could dislike her for her actions without commenting on her looks/body.

+100000000

I just like her books because they entertain me. I don't care if she's a bad person.

And hey, maybe what OP meant was that they're the only books they like that have diverse characters? CC's particular cheesy fun brand of urban fantasy is still very white, so for their genre her books (especially the historical ones) are much better than most others with diversity. Rec all the other authors you want, but I recognize some of them and their stories are nothing like CC's, and frankly many of them are boring and pretentious.

this.
i have a YA fantasy book subscription which has some edgy or lgbt stuff, but there's nothing as open / glaring as in CCs books. (I read them all).
One book was branded as "GAY PIRATES" and turned out to be a broken up lesbian couple which consisted of 2 very minor characters. yeah nope.

The police constable protagonist of Ben Aaronovitch’s Rivers of London series is half Sierra Leonean and one of his superiors is a married lesbian. His boss is possibly gay and a pretty decent proportion of slash fanfic pairs them up if that’s your thing. One of his coworkers who gets more decelopment as the series goes on is a hijabi Muslim woman.

The books are fun and remind me of what I liked about the Dresden Files books without the overwhelming sexism and obsession with guns. Also, since Peter, the protagonist, works as part of a police department, there’s less of a broody lone wolf quality to the series. And it’s not a laugh a minute, but it can get pretty funny.

Also, I’ve only managed to read the first one, but there’re short graphic novels also written by the author that fit between books in the series, and the one I read was fun.

And I haven’t read them, but apparently Seanan McGuire’s stuff is kind of whacky adventures with a diverse cast as well.

Sarah Gailey's River of Teeth has a black, gay hippo rancher protagonist who falls for the agender exposives expert in the Louisiana bayou while trying to exact revenge on the hippo ranch destroying bad guy. It was a hoot!

Laura Lam's Pantomime is supposed to be good, and the magical protagonist of that is intersex.

John Scalzi's Collapsing Empire series has openly bisexual Kiva Lagos as a main PoV character, and she gets a cute girlfriend in the second book (she was boning the flow scientist guy in the first), plus lots of side mentions of how acceptable it is for the Empero to have consorts of either sex. Scalzi's Locked In series touches on people who use androids of either/both genders, whatever is more comfortable.

Honestly, I think you're just not looking.

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