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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-02-28 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #4438 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, no. Part of the appeal of mpreg for me is precisely because it's a man in that position. It loses literally all the appeal when it's a woman. Kind of like how I can't stand het that involves dominant!man/submissive!woman, I vastly prefer dominant!woman/submissive!man.

It's also not "internalized misogyny" that I'm horrified at the prospect of becoming pregnant.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I get why it wouldn't appeal if it was a woman in that position, but why does it appeal when it's a man? (not OP just curious)

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but for me it's a "turnabout is fair play" sort of thing.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
So is mpreg like a subcategory of whump?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's unusual and subversive. It's also nice to put men in a typically "female" role.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
If they wanted to have a subversion they shouldn't write those male characters as basically chicks with dicks. They already feminise male characters beyond recognition, might as well just write women in the first place since there's barely a difference anymore anyway.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
...do you not understand how kinks work? They literally said the appeal is subversion and putting men in a female (and therefore, submissive) role. There's nothing appealing about seeing women be submissive to these kind of people.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-02 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

...and yet you still need a dominant male involved. Wow, such subversion. /rollseyes

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
But there is a difference because it's a fucking man in that position.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. I understand your frustration with OOCness, but saying they might as well be chicks is ignoring every other factor and reducing gender to a set of behaviors which doesn't really work for your argument

Like, no one looks at butch/femme femslash and goes lolol they might as well write a man, the butch one is so manly! That's like, directly not the point anyone interested in this genre is going for

I'm as annoyed by woobie OOC feminization as the next fan, but 'might as well write women' has got to be you missing the point on purpose

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
*cringes*

An "effeminate" man is not the same as a woman, dude. You really need to think this argument through a little better.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
this x 1000000000000

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I should also specify that it really depends on the character. Like I love mpreg of Newt Scamander because he's maternal, refers to himself as "mum" with his creatures, and I just think he'd be happy as an actual mom (or have him angst over his inability to get pregnant). But mpreg involving, say, Bucky or Steve getting knocked up does absolutely nothing for me.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
DA

It's kind of the opposite for me. I like to see the most stereotypically masculine one getting knocked up - it's so interesting to see how that sort of personality would express itself in that position.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not necessarily *into* mpreg, but as a woman who really resents woman being put into weaker, submissive, or caretaker roles, it's neat to see it with a man because those gender roles don't inherently exist anymore. At that point, they get put into the role solely based on looks or personality. It's sexier to have one guy being alpha to another guy because it's purely based on their personality dynamic, without any sexism* at play.

*obviously in like a/b/o there is usually an element of imagined "sexism" a la alphas and omegas, but it's not based on actual gender, which is a squick for me.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding ALL of this, this so damn hard.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-01 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is exactly it.