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For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It drops tomorrow, but here's the official trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBnarCTOiCY

What do you guys think? I actually didn't follow the case too closely as it happened because it's always a media circus. I prefer to wait until enough time has passed and someone gathers all the information and makes a documentary. This is one of the few cases that rivals the JonBenet Ramsey murder where there are dozens of theories and a LOT of blame heaped on the parents. I don't really have a solid opinion, so I'm curious to see what the documentary covers. Hopefully it's in more depth than their Amanda Knox doc, which was disappointingly superficial.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-14 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I am torn between her parents are involved or....it doesn't matter their negligence is reason enough to jail them.

Maddy is either dead or in some sort of hell circus by now whether that is adopted by unhinged individuals or taken by sex traffickers. One way or another, I wish the government would stop giving this family so much damn money to try find her. As cruel as that makes me seem.

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon is so cute btw!
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-14 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
ty!

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
freakin' this

it pains me to agree with katie fucking hopkins, but "maddie wasn't lost because somebody took her, maddie was lost because she was left to be found" is pretty much bang on
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-14 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
yup but also yup on katie ew

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't buy any big conspiracy on the parents' part. It's not that easy to dump a body without it being discovered, and they weren't even in familiar territory. But they were certainly negligent.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-15 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Idk the Portuguese police seem worse than useless. I don't even think they dumped her themselves but there are so many questions

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-14 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that the easiest explanation is the most probable. Her parents gave her something to make her sleep, she stopped breathing, they panicked and hid her body. After they came back, they raised the alarm and told everyone that she had gone missing.

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'd almost buy that except... where's the body, then? They didn't have a whole lot of time, they weren't on their home turf. Where and how do you hide a body so well that one of Europe's biggest manhunts doesn't uncover it and nobody notices the odor of decomposition? I mean, how much time did they have to accomplish this? Because they can't have done it AFTER the alarm was raised, there were too many people watching.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-14 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I firmly believe that JonBenet Ramsey's family had nothing to do with her disappearance. In the case of Madeleine, though, I am pretty suspicious of her family. If nothing else, they've acted pretty badly and there terrible parenting skills were a contributory factor.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-14 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk the brother in the JonBenet case looks dodgy and so does the whole fam. I suspect them too tbh
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-15 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
From what I know, from the reading I've done, I don't think the parents are guilty. Brother, maybe, but I don't think the parents knew if he was involved.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-15 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
yeah it is absolutely the brother that would be prime suspect to me

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhh. I know that's a favorite theory for a lot of people, but it seems pretty weak. Even we accept that a 9 year old kid could commit murder - and it's entirely possible, if not common - there are too many holes. Did he fashion and use the garrote? That'd be awfully sophisticated for a 9 year old kid. Or was he just responsible for the head trauma? If he only did the head trauma, who committed the strangulation via garrote?

I know people argue that the parents covered up for their son but think about it... remember that there's no evidence the Ramseys ever mistreated either of their two kids, certainly not physically. If either of them was the favorite, it looks more like JonBenet, not her brother. So in order for the cover up to take place, they would've had to find JonBenet with a head wound but NOT yet dead and instead of screaming and calling 911 or rushing her to the hospital to save her, their first instinct is to make a garrote, finish the job by strangling her and also faking some vaginal injury along the way and then stage the body in the basement?


And then where did the unknown male DNA (TWO individual sources) on JonBenet's clothes come from?
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-03-15 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
JB wet herself often. She was the family cash cow and an unhappy one at that.

I fully believe the parents could have panicked and done all that you described. No one ever said murder made sense. Their story certainly doesn't.

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think Jonbenet's family did it, either, but that seems to be the general consensus. A lot of that is based on their behavior after the murder, but I think they're reading too much into it.
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Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-15 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like a lot of people don't seem to grasp that different people react differently to grief. They expect overt tears and mourning, and that just isn't everyone. John Douglas has a good chapter on the case in his unsolved mysteries book (actually, that book in general is good, I think he's got a pretty good suggestion about Jack the Ripper as well).

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
IA with Douglas' take on it. Obviously it's not impossible for parents to kill their own children, but IMO it doesn't make sense in this case.

Re: For true crime doc fans - Netflix "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann"

(Anonymous) 2019-03-15 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
This. IMO, it wasn't even that bizarre. They acted like the privileged rich people they were by lawyering up (a wise move regardless and NOT a sign of suspicion like the cops try to insist it is) and protecting themselves from an incompetent police department who bungled the investigation from day one. Patsy's behavior was strange, but she was also drugged to the gills. There was plenty of tears and mourning.