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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-29 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #4466 ]


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[personal profile] fscom 2019-03-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
11. [WARNING for discussion of domestic abuse]
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(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, really? I had not heard that. Are you sure that's from a valid source? I feel like I would've heard it if there were any basis in truth...

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The evidence was filed in court. It includes witness statements and hundreds of videos.

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Here is the court filing

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The source is a Depp stan account.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not, but fans have eaten it up.

The desire to fuck a washed up celebrity > common sense.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think I'll wait to see if there's any actual legitimate evidence. But I'll admit to expecting that it won't amount to much. You can always find a lawyer who is willing to take your money; doesn't mean your case actually has merit.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I am going to lose my fucking mind if we have to do this conversation again.

Especially if still involves assuming that only one person in a relationship can be abusive, and especially especially if it's explicitly motivated by yelling at people who annoyed you online.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
We need a bingo card at this point.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it is he said/she said and only one of them has a history of domestic abuse.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. People who rush to judge Johnny Depp but won't accept that Amber Heard is a monster frankly disgust me.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But...but...but one is a woman. And according to the one anon above, people only support Depp because they want to fuck him.

Well, looking at Heard and Depp, I expect more people want to fuck her.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
And what about the people who immediately rush to call Heard a monster at the first whiff of rumor?

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. I am a huge fan of young JD's work but from everything that has come out they both look like abusive fucks. Maybe he started it or maybe she did but both abused the other and it doesn't excuse either's behavior.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-03-29 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Innocent until proven guilty" applies more significantly to the accusers, who have generally less motive to lie.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
No it doesn't.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
But still can. I dunno about you, but most of us don't know these people personally and jumping to conclusions about their personal lives seems rather hasty. It's better judge on an individual basis after the facts have come out than make a mistake about something as serious as abuse.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-30 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about that. But it is a court standard, not a standard normal people have to use in deciding what they believe happened.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I met ninety6tears two summers ago in South Virginia and she all of a sudden knocked me down and started kicking me in the face. Some bystanders had to intervene and I suffered a major concussion.

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no dog in this fight. However I don't think anything can redeem Depp in my eyes. Even if he was abused he also seems like a shitty person to work with and be in a relationship with.

I feel like people try to over simplify shit and argue over who is worse, but there are so many mutually abusive relationships. Now it just seems like stans and anti's are just caught up in their own biases that they can't admit maybe both parties are shit.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...unfortunately any revelation that she might be a terrible person doesn't erase the years of unpleasant behavior on his part, things he did looong before they even met.

But it never seems to matter how awful both parties are, if a woman accusing a man of something turns out to be less than a paragon of virtue herself, people see that as automatically invalidating her side of things.

"It no longer matters that you were lured to a hotel room and violently assaulted by a movie executive who had a pattern of doing this to women for years with a pre meditated routine, you had sex with a 17 year old one time".

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(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
you summed it up way better than i could.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't all of the evidence fucking dismissed?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
If this is about the evidence regarding his finger, Depp literally said he did it to himself to scare her ffs.

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
it's almost like relationships that go wrong can be extremely complicated and messy and maybe shouldn't be the business of bystanders with a clear bias in either direction!

(Anonymous) 2019-03-30 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG THIS