[ SECRET POST #4522 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4522 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Matrix]


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03.
[Mr Meaty]


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[Roxanne from A Goofy Movie]


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05. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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06. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]

[Arya/Gendry]


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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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08. [SPOILERS for Avengers Endgame]



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09. [SPOILERS for Avengers Endgame]



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10. [SPOILERS for Dawson's Creek]



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11. [WARNING for abuse, etc.]

[ProJared]



















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #647.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

So for all those other characters, the fans overlook their crimes because they like them.

But for Dany, the only reason why the fans still like her is because "Misogyny! Men can't handle women with power! Spoon!" and not because she was a popular character.

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[(Anonymous)]

The difference? Tormund's fans know who he is. They accept that he's a killer and they don't make excuses. They don't think anyone who judges him is being unfair and hypocritical.

And if Tormund had gone 'round the bend like Daenerys did in the finale they wouldn't be all over the internet saying, "Go, Tormund! Kill more innocent people, and put some stank on it!"

Daenerys fans? They think just because the world didn't fall at her feet and worship her, every baby she roasted during her fit of entitled rage was justified. Fuck, they think she should have killed MORE.

And in their minds anyone who was horrified at her actions just can't handle a woman with power using her power, even if it's in the most depraved way imaginable.

It's like reading fan mail to serial killers.

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[(Anonymous)]

That's easy for them, since nobody judges Tormund for what he's done, and in the show he's just portrayed as a lovable guy.

And most of the Dany fans aren't saying she was justified. They think she got a raw deal, both from the other characters and from the writers, but they don't think what she did was right.

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[(Anonymous)]

Did you even read the secret this thread is attached to?

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

If someone burned down a KKK convention, I wouldn't shed a lot of tears. That doesn't mean I'd say the arsonist was right.

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[(Anonymous)]

Spoken like a true sociopath.

You are a Daenerys fan!

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[(Anonymous)]

If you want to support the Klu Klux Klan, that's your business.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm anti burning people to death.

Just because you stan Daenerys doesn't mean you have to imagine people dying in fires.

It's a bit much.

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[(Anonymous)]

Like I said, I wouldn't support it. I just wouldn't feel too bad for them.

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[(Anonymous)]

Apathetic disinterest in human suffering perpetuates human suffering.

It's not your fault though--caring is hard when you're a sociopath.

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[(Anonymous)]

You sound white.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

Black as midnight.

But that's good. When people start busting out, "You sound white," I know they've depleted what little intellectual ammunition they had.

"You must be white."

Classic!

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[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

No more words, huh?

You've given up. Too bad. Verbally slapping you around was fun.

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[(Anonymous)]

No, I'm just having trouble believing a black person would be upset over a hypothetical KKK convention burning down.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yay! (Ahem)

Well, I do.

Fire is unpredictable. Are firefighters going to be risking their lives to put out the inferno? What about the surrounding buildings and the people inside them? And that's more endangered firefighters. What about any non-Klan members inside the convention? Like janitors or security? What if Klan members brought their kids?

It's called thinking things through. It's about considering the unforeseen consequences of violent actions. It's called being an intelligent, decent person.

The opposite of you, apparently.

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[(Anonymous)]

So if only the KKK members themselves died, you wouldn't care?

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[(Anonymous)]

Finally! An intelligent question. Good for you!

Well, first, I'd consider the murderer out of control. I'd understand what drove them to take and risk so many lives, but they would need to be caught and suffer the consequences of their actions.

And, yes, I would care.

A lot of Klan members were born into the cult, and I've seen so many leave it and completely turn around as people; there's hope as long as there's life.

I only condone killing when it's in self-defense or in the defense of others. Randomly massacring large groups of people, even incredibly flawed, misguided people is beyond inhumane--it's inhuman.

Now, if you'd used Nazis as an example (and, no, they are not the same thing--not YET), and I mean dyed in the wool, real fucking Nazis? That's a different story. I still wouldn't condone setting their conventions on fire, innocent people might get hurt, but a clean bullet to the back of their skulls IS self-defense and the defense of others. It's not only perfectly acceptable, but necessary.

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[(Anonymous)]

Except I already said I wouldn't condone it. I just said wouldn't cry a lot over it.

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[(Anonymous)]

What does that mean?

"I just said wouldn't cry a lot over it."

You'd cry a little?

Seriously, what does that mean?

Are you so apathetic you'd disapprove of catching the mass murdering arsonist? If you were on their jury would you let them off with a finger wag? If you saw them about to throw a match on a pool of accelerant would you try to stop them, or call the police?

Stop crowing about your lack of conscience--it's a bit unsettling.

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[(Anonymous)]

You should look up Robert Ransdell and the type of reaction a lot of people had to his death.

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[(Anonymous)]

Do you really think other people's apathy excuses your lack of caring or conscience?

Wow.

That might be okay for childish, apathetic people like you, but I'm a grown-up. I can make my own decisions and judgement calls, and I choose to hold criminals accountable for their crimes; even when they hurt the "right" people.

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[(Anonymous)]

Again, it's not about not holding the criminal accountable. It's just not being upset that a neo-nazi got run over.

Though I do find it very hard to believe a black person would be this upset over people not caring about a neo-nazi getting killed.

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[(Anonymous)]

Okay. Okay. I knew you were going to say something like that.

I mean, you're not hard to predict, simpletons rarely are, but still it was shockingly easy!

This whole "conversation" is about accountability, remember?

Holding people accountable means telling them what they did was wrong. It means telling them Do Not Commit This Crime Again. To do that you have to at least pretend to care the crime was committed in the first place.

It does not mean shrugging and telling the criminal I'm not sad or upset you did that, because that attitude isn't holding them accountable, it sends the message what they did was okay. It says they can murder anyone they feel like, whenever they feel like.

Question time! Because I've noticed people who hand-wave murder tend to respond differently to sexual violence, and I'm curious to see just how depraved you are:

A bunch of guys gang-rape members of the Klan-- say, a sixteen year old girl and her eighteen year old brother. Do you A, continue not caring, because it's not like they're people, right? Or B, do you act like a fucking human being and want the rapists to go to prison?

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[(Anonymous)]

Not caring about a neo-Nazi getting run over ≠ not caring about two teenagers getting gang raped. Yes, rape is generally viewed as being more evil.

And once again, nobody seriously suggested that the girl driving go free. They just weren't too upset over losing a guy who ran on a campaign of "with Jews, we lose."