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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-27 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #4525 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4525 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
TIL that stereotypes and the rigid adherence to homophobic ones are harmless.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
you're one of those people that thinks literally everyone switches and there's no such thing as a top or a bottom aren't you

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Such people exist. There is little point fighting about fictional characters' preference.

I'm without such preference myself but I am sure it happens. There are women who don't enjoy receiving oral sex, too, but they aren't commonly found in fanfic smut. One can only speculate why this is.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there was any implication of that in what was said, the discussion is over the fact that nowadays just being a woman who likes mlm content (especially anything erotic in nature) will immediately get you called out as someone who is fetishizing gay men, no matter what.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

But there are also people who do fetishize gay men, so just dismissing any criticisms as women-hating doesn't seem reasonable either

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
"Having a dog as a pet is very normal and common. It's only a problem if your dog attacks people."

"B-but some pet dogs DO attack people! Are you really trying to normalize dog-owning?!"

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm sure it happens, but personally 99% of the time I have seen people whipping out this claim it's over ships they don't like involving fictional characters or content they don't like, having nothing to do with real life gay men at all.

And the word fetishizing has lost it's originally meaning as well, now typically being used to mean 'find a particular thing attractive.' Finding gay men and relationships appealing and attractive does not automatically mean you are fetishizing them.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
TIL it's woke to claim that a ship being slash makes it a rigid adherence to homophobic stereotypes.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt but that's not even a little what they said

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Dahli: "If they are not causing harm to real people (when they ship slash)--"
That anon: "So you're saying homophobic stereotypes don't cause harm to real people?!"
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

[personal profile] dahli 2019-05-28 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you and I are talking about two very different things that happen to overlap.

My comment (albeit snappy, I was really irritated at the time and apologize if I came off as rude and insensitive) was about how being in slash fandom tends to get you under constant attack if you enjoy slash in any way or form.

And what I meant with "If they are not causing any real harm to irl people they should be left alone" is that, as long as that person enjoys said slash and keep separate their fiction from reality and not doing any harm to others (bullying, shoving their views on somebody else, etc.), then they should not be bullied for it.

That said, it doesn't make what you're implying less valid.