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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-14 03:26 pm

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Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see the harm in playing with paper if the cat isn't eating it, but comforting a whining cat does just teach it to whine more to get your attention. I could see why other people wouldn't be okay with that if they also have to put up with the whining.
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Re: Vent thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-07-14 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
She does it whether we comfort her or not. She does it because she wants to go out on the porch. It is just something she does. My mother wants me to completely ignore her when she makes any sort of remotely whiny sounds. I don't think that's reasonable.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's fine if that's your personal preference. But on this occasion, your mom is correct in that ignoring behavior you don't want repeated is the way to train a cat or dog properly. It'd be one thing if your cat was whining because she's unsafe, uncomfortable, etc. but that's not the case from what you've said. Any time you reinforce the whining with positive behavior (cuddling, letting the cat on the porch, positive attention), the cat learns that whining is good and effective.
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Re: Vent thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-07-14 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It is possible. It seems to me like it hasn't worked so far and like toy distraction would be a better thing to try. But since I don't want my cat to be kicked out, and my mother has threatened to do that, I do what my mother wants.

Honestly, really I'm mostly just pissed off about the threat.
Edited 2019-07-14 21:24 (UTC)

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on how you're reacting in the moment. If distracting her with a toy when she's whining works, well, it works because you've given her something she wants in response to the whining. That won't stop the whining... just the opposite. You've taught her that whining = something nice.

Unfortunately, training is a big pain in the ass, it takes a long time, and it MUST be consistent (you and everyone else in your house who interacts with your cat have to do it the proper way every time) or it won't work. But yeah, sounds like you're stuck so long as you're not living independently from your parents.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-15 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. It's one thing if the cat is whining because she needs something or is in distress, but if she's just doing it for attention, you absolutely do not want to reward that.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Piggybagging on this: my cat keeps whining at night cause he really REALLY wants to go into this particular room he's not allowed to go in... cause it has the balcony attached to it (there is a cat net on the balcony, but when one leaves him alone on there, he somehow always manages to get onto the roof which is not good for my heart)... which my father recently decided him and the cat should visit together in the evening. Which. Fine. But now he wants to go on there at night and he keeps whining in front of the door and it's so so so annoying (100% believe that thing that cats whine on the frequency of human babies so we can't ignore them).
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Re: Vent thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-07-14 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man. You're kitty sounds adorable and frustrating at the same time, just like mine. My girl thinks the porch is the best place. And she thinks her reflection is another cat. Which means, at night, her reflection in the glass door is the enemy and is clearly on the porch taunting her. I really want to just tell her it is okay and distract her with toys. Ignoring doesn't seem to be working.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Aaaaw sounds so cute!

And he's adorable! Just very annoying at night right now. :/
He's not allowed outside, because we live right next to a busy street Can't teach a cat to just stay in the garden... or at least not this cat. He's gentle, doesn't hunt ankles, doesn't bite, doesn't scratch (unless you really annoy him, in which case he's still more likely to just push you away or run away himself) but he absolutely refuses being picked up. He doesn't sit on laps (unless you put him into a box, then it's apparently fine???) or cuddles (petting is encouraged when he's sleepy). Aka no way I can get him into a harness or just pick him up when I decide to get back in. So housecat it is (he does have the basement and two floors to live in so space is there!).

Do wonder if he would like a cat friend. We used to have another cat that we also got as company for him... but he never really warmed up to her (she died last year - on my freaking birthday, cause she had a bad heart, still makes me cry :(). They weren't enemies or anything, but also not friends?
I just don't know how I would be able to bring a cat back to the shelter if it doesn't work out and since I don't know if he's unhappy now... sigh. (I know cats are often happier when they're not alone, but he only started purring again after my other cat was gone? Don't know what to make of that)

/vomiting cat things
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Re: Vent thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-07-14 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine is not allowed out either. She's allowed out on our closed in porch. How long she's allowed out depends on how hot it is. She loves it out there, though. We have a bird feeder in the yard. She loves bird watching. And occasionally we'll take her out on a leash.

My kitty does not do well with other cats. She was an outdoor cat with other cats in her previous, abusive home. She was territorially insecure and wanted to be an indoor cat. They yelled at her and kicked her. She was bullied by the other cats. So she doesn't do well. When my sister brings her cat when she visits, my Joanna is unhappy.

She's a very good girl. Sometimes she thinks feet are toys. But that's okay. She's an adorable calico girl. She loves to play and watch birds. Her favorite food is tuna. She loves to sleep at the foot of my bed. She's a tree dweller cat who will climb on anything she can. She's not a lap cat, but she lets me know she loves me by slow blinking and wanting to be near me all the time. I love her so much. I don't know that I've ever loved a pet as much as I love her.

/more vomit of cat things.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Aaaaaaw, she sounds absolutely delightful!

Mine is a big, red tabby named Tobi. We got him from a shelter when he was half a year old (I actually wanted to adopt an older cat, but they only had older outdoor cats and with that street, my heart would have never taken it). He has a slightly crooked tail at the base where it must have been broken before when he was a kitten, which is why he can't stand it up 100% erect like cats do when they're excited, but he does the best he can (also probably the reason why he doesn't like being petted there?).

Petting is nice when he's sleepy. Otherwise no. We're allowed to touch the soft belly when he's sleeping tho. So that's fair.

He does not care for catnip - his choice of kitty drug is vervaine and most cat toys are for peasants. He wants to play with that grass stalk and then eat it like a savage thank you very much! (Amazingly he almost never vomits them or any furr back up?)

He also likes to YELL at other cats outside to get off his lawn (there are always those 0.5 seconds everyone in the house thinks he accidently got stuck somewhere >_>).

He'd love to go out and we wish we could explain a harness to him. :(

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
* aaaaand he sleeps in a cardboard box at the foot of my bed. XD
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Re: Vent thread

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-07-14 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Dawwww. You're boy sounds adorable. My girl doesn't like catnip on its own, or the plant. But she likes catnip toys. Her drug of choice is brushing. Which is weird because when it comes to petting, she's a cheeks only girl, and only sometimes. But brushing is a drug for her, especially when my mom does it. She looks like she's high when she's being brushed.

My cat has never had a hairball either. Never vomited anything.

My girl disdains water bowls. She only drinks out of her fountain or the sink. Only moving water for her. Until I got her the fountain, she'd only do the sink or try to drink from the toilet.

Right now she's curled up in a ball at the foot of my bed, looking completely adorable. She's a calico cutie. I've been told by others she's particularly beautiful for a calico. I don't know. I just know I adore her.

Re: Vent thread

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Tobi has a fountain, too! He does drink out of a bowl if he has to, tho (the fountain is in the living room, which is closed at night).

He sometimes sleeps on his back and it looks hilarious.

He also gets compliments for his furr... so we're very proud owners of two very pretty cats. :3