[ SECRET POST #4606 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4606 ⌋

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[Kotomi Ichinose, CLANNAD]


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05. [SPOILERS for Endgame]



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Comments

[fscom]

06. [SPOILERS for Endgame]
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[(Anonymous)]

I thought he acted like a selfish coward who forgot he was supposed to sacrifice his child for other people

Fixed that for you, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Could you expand on your point here?

[(Anonymous)]

???
Unless OP has wildly fucked up what they meant to communicate, they think that Tony was selfish because he didn't want to erase his daughter, the child in his arms right there in the picture, from reality. Because of course, as a hero, he should be willing and eager to allow all his friends, family, and other miscellaneous loved ones to be wiped from existence, for the greater good.

And I think that's fucked up, and OP is a sociopath.

[(Anonymous)]

He was all gung-ho about sacrificing everyone's freedom for that one lady's kid, so...

Besides, one child <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< half of the universe

[(Anonymous)]

That's literally not a human way of thinking. If you were in the situation, where you had to make the choice to undo the existence of your child, who you spent years making and loving and raising, you wouldn't be like "welp, sucks, but gotta do what you gotta do." You would protect your child. Like, period. You would.

[(Anonymous)]

And what about all of the other kids? Fuck them?

[(Anonymous)]

All the children born in those five years, really... but sure, you'd be totally chill with killing about 200,000,000 children.
Give or take.
And that definitely isn't super fucked up at all! :D

[(Anonymous)]

Don't you know that personal feelings only matter when they're Tony's feelings?

[(Anonymous)]

Is this the scene where he refused to "sacrifice" his kid? Because that was actually the only time in all of the MCU where I actually identified with Tony. He felt to me like an actual person. I get that he's a hero, so he should always go for the greater good, because that's what a hero does. But I can't fault him, because fuck, I'd pick my daughter over the world too.

[kamino_neko]

His daughter and all the other children born since the Snap.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, how dare he want to sacrifice his child, and countless other children, for the sake of clearing someone else's conscience because they apparently don't think it's a problem to just erase all these children?

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus H, OP, come on. I'm not Tony's biggest fan or anything, but I want you to tell me that you'd sacrifice your own child for any reason whatsoever. If you can say that you would, even for the "greater good", you're honestly a sociopath.

[(Anonymous)]

It's fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, a hero.

[tabaqui]

I get the argument re: his child. I do. I have a daughter. But, in fairness - they kids wouldn't die, they just would never be. The potential for them will be there, though.

But really - as awful a thought as it is, when they reversed the Snap, so much stuff would have been so horribly fucked up. All those people who moved on, or maybe died; all those people who moved away, found other lives, etc.... And then here are all these people like nothing ever happened.....

Really just better if they put Bucky in a sniper nest somewhere, pile onto Thanos so he's distracted, and then fucking shoot him in the head with the type of bullet that expands. I mean - c'mon. That or just chop his damn arm off and have Strange or somebody spirit all the stones away.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this was my major takeaway from the whole thing, and why it left a super-awful taste in my mouth. I don't think undoing the snap was the right thing to do. Maybe that's an F!S in and of itself, haha. But I just don't... see how undoing it was any better than doing it in the first place. It still ruined and undid billions of lives.

[(Anonymous)]

To me that's the same as killing them. The circumstances that made them will never exist. Stuff would be fucked either way.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't imagine having to make the choice of my girl vs all the world. But, yeah, they wouldn't be killed. And what about all of the kids who were actually killed because of the snap? Not just the kids who were snapped and were brought back. The kids who were in planes and cars that got into accidents because drivers and pilots were snapped? Kids who were abandoned in cars and homes and died because their caregivers were snapped? Kids who had miserable existences because they were in a likely overloaded foster care system because their parents were snapped or killed or who otherwise suffered because of the snap? The kids who will starve in the present time because the world has adapted to feeding half the pipulation? And that's just a few of the issues. That is a lot of suffering that wouldn't exist if the snap were simply undone so everyone could be where they were snapped.

[(Anonymous)]

"he was supposed to be a hero", that line rubs me the wrong way. Iron Man has always been about righting Tony's wrongs. That's the difference between him and Captain America: Cap is altruistic ("I don't like bullies"), Tony fucks up and then tries to fix it. This is something the MCU has been pretty consistent about.
I'm not saying he was right to refuse to help Cap & co., but he has to help because he's supposed to be a hero is the wrong argument here.

[(Anonymous)]

I have my issues with Tony, but that was definately one of it.

[(Anonymous)]

(the same anon, here)

...that was definately NOT one of them (was what I menat to write).

[(Anonymous)]

I think Tony was in a pretty no-win situation here and I also think that even if he eventually reached the conclusion that he should sacrifice his kid (and every other kid born since the snap* as well as any happiness people have found) it's completely understandable that he would hesitate and not immediately be all "Yep, let's do this!" Even if putting everything back to the way it was pre-snap is the best thing for the most people, you can't blame him for not jumping at the chance when it's first broached to him here.

Also, I don't recall anyone else saying "No, we're not just bringing back the dusted people, we're making it so it never happened." I remember no discussion, just everyone going along with it, acting like it was the only/best solution.

*none of whom have a realistic chance of being born anyway without the snap, even if the parents were already together, because you're talking about a specific sperm cell with specific DNA being created and fertilizing a specific egg and the genes recombining in a specific way, none of which is inevitable, so you have an infentessimally small chance of getting the same kid again. Of course, no one would be aware of the kids they lost if the snap were undone, so arguably it doesn't matter.

[(Anonymous)]

OP is obviously not a parent