[ SECRET POST #4695 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4695 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I just have a hard time understanding that real people can have a perceived canon at all. Like in any other media you have the writers and directors deciding what's what, where you can't have that in RPF. Cut,
Honestly I like OP's take that because they're famous they realistically should have crew around most of the time, but it still boggles my mind.

Re: How has your hump day gone?

[(Anonymous)]

Completely blew a presentation at work despite preparing last week and part of yesterday... sigh...

Worked up the nerve to take the pain meds the clinic prescribed for my foot inflammation.

Contemplating going to bed early, but I won't rest well either way.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean a year on earth is still the same year.

But maybe Westeros has a more dramatic tilt, then? It makes a rotation of the sun but the season doesn't change as much, so not noticeably.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't there at least a little mention about how all the battles up and down the continent were smashing up fields and ruining crops and killing the people who would otherwise harvest the crops? They sure as hell won't be eating much at all come winter.

Re: I can't imagine Meyer would have gotten anywhere with a lawsuit.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is the correct answer.

Re: How has your hump day gone?

[(Anonymous)]

It's cold and wet outside and I wish I could spend the miserable winter somewhere warm and sunny, by the sea. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Still grave robbery.

[(Anonymous)]

Technically not that much worse than the legal navy, really.

Re: I can't imagine Meyer would have gotten anywhere with a lawsuit.

[(Anonymous)]

I loathe FSoG and EL James sounds small-minded and petty as fuck, but regardless of that, I think you're 100% right about this. The idea that FSoG has enough similarities to Twilight to infringe on copyright is more than a little bit of a stretch. The two properties are so different that if it weren't a known fact the two are linked, I highly doubt FSoG would even be considered to have more than the vaguest coincidental similarities to Twilight.

[tabaqui]

But nobody said that.

[tabaqui]

Thanks, Anon. :D

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, pirates were generally more democratically set up, voting on who would be captain and officers as well as what the ship's next goal/destination would be, and the average pirate sailor got a MUCH bigger chunk of prizes than any privateer seaman would have. Sure, some of them were absolute dicks, but the same could be said of any historical figure, especially the memorable ones.

[(Anonymous)]

+525600

[ninefox]

If there was such a time, presumably it was before the Long Night, and I would have expected the ages which turned the LN to myth should also have seen the measures of timekeeping evolve. And given how central the myth of the LN is to the series overall, I'd expect "good worldbuilding" to involve some textual suggestion that this was the case, rather than you or I spackling over the plot hole ourselves.

And on the other hand, if the magically variable seasons WERE a recent development, I'd expect a lot more...historical legacy of the change. There's SO much history and heritage in GoT but no "AND WHEN THE SEASONS CHANGED, SUCH AND SUCH HOUSE WITH GOOD SILOS GAINED ASCENDANCY, AND THESE OTHER DYNASTIES CRUMBLED, AND THESE ARE THE ONGOING CONSEQUENCES OF THAT BREAK."

Like, I'm not a hater, I think there's some fun stuff in there. But this one thing really ruins the sense of an organic world for me. Everyone seems to act BOTH as if the variable seasons are normal and NBD, and also like regular earth medieval people who have not adapted their entire survival rhythm to this situation. Even the Starks, and it's supposed to be their whole thing. But saying "winter is coming" over and over again is no substitute for touring the smokehouses and making sure they're stockpiling for years in advance, yknow?

OR LIKE. Maybe a year is 12 lunar months. Or 14, thanks to the faith of the seven. Or maybe a "year" is the time it takes a human child to gestate, which would be a natural longer measure than days/weeks. But Martin doesn't tell us any of these things. He doesn't appear to have thought about it at all, as far as I know.

[(Anonymous)]

guitar wasn't ernesto's

[ninefox]

Yeah, but most of those places DO have dry seasons vs monsoons that also run on the cycle of solar revolutions, or in the tropics, a few months of the year that regularly have the worst storms. There's a way to tell that a full and regular year-long pattern has repeated. And anywhere that absolutely 100% isn't the case has had ongoing cultural contact with most of the rest of the planet, via trade/colonialism/whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

grave was

[ninefox]

If it were a more dramatic tilt or a different orbit, it would still be regular - 42 (earth) years of winter, 42 (earth) years of summer, then the same again. Mars has a "wobbly" tilt that changes it's year length, but planets are super big and move super slowly. The change would only be noticeable on the scale of millennia, not from one orbit to the next.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol, yep

[ninefox]

IS IT 12 MONTHS A YEAR

IF YES WHY 12

months make sense to me. just not years.

Re: How has your hump day gone?

[(Anonymous)]

Bleh. not too good not too bad. I've left groceries at the store before, I always get worried they'll think I'm trying to steal someone elses.

[ninefox]

I know what you mean, but I kind of agree with ayrt, just because like...the medieval tech level makes it a really different scenario in terms of having to base their lifestyle around the climate and ecology and natural rhythms, compared to a more technological society that can divorce itself more easily from the natural world.

(Obv some scifi is about primitive societies, Dark Eden etc, but real world medieval culture, the catholic calendar, etc are so tied into the seasonal opportunities and resource management, that it would be a really interesting thing to change and really explore. And I wouldn't expect to find that in scifi as much.)

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[(Anonymous)]

lol love it.

[(Anonymous)]

I always thought she did too.