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⌈ Secret Post #4704 ⌋

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08. [WARNING for discussion of sexual abuse]

[Chris Hardwick/Chloe Dykstra]












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08. [WARNING for discussion of sexual abuse]
https://i.imgur.com/MUFXLQT.png
[Chris Hardwick/Chloe Dykstra]

I sort of agree.

[(Anonymous)]

And I feel bad about it too. I do think that people should give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who reports a crime/wrongdoing, but if there is actual, real evidence that they are fabricating, it is understandable for people to stop giving them that benefit.

Re: I sort of agree.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

This is one of a few high profile cases where I don't believe the accuser after some time. It's also why I don't like the culture of immediately destroying careers based on accusations. Trial by media is a losing game on all sides. I'm glad he was suspended and an investigation was carried out before anything was decided.

[(Anonymous)]

What she did was an abuse of power: the power to be believed on just her word. Something a lot women worked very hard to achieve, and she eroded that power because she wanted payback against her ex. She's disgusting.

My biggest issue with the whole situation now is how all his detractors basically went into hiding and pretend they didn't scream for his firing and arrest. None of them want to admit she used so-called, "call-out culture" like a weapon, and that they were more than happy to be her bullets, which is dishonest and disgusting on their parts.

[(Anonymous)]

You shouldn’t believe all victims because that’s asking to turn off critical thinking skills. Yes initially most people want to side with the victim because those accusations are horrible but it’s been seen time and again an easy way to smear a guy and no one questions it. It hurts real victims more than helps.

[(Anonymous)]

He's abused his girlfriends in the past.

[(Anonymous)]

Are we supposed to take your word on it, or do you have any evidence other than rumor and your personal bias?

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I've seen, the girlfriends he's had since the early 90s up to his current wife (minus Chloe, obvs) have all come out in support of him.

Andrea Savage, Jacinda Barrett, Janet Varney, and Lydia Hearst have all spoken out in support of him.

I'm not saying I disbelieve Chloe Dykstra. You can have many non-abusive relationships and still be abusive in others. I really think, at a minimum, there wasn't a great power dynamic between Hardwick and Dykstra with his age and fame that had a great potential to be abused (though I of course don't know if he did abuse her or not).

But I've been watching carefully and haven't seen any even whiffs of rumors that he's been abusive in the past.

[(Anonymous)]

Stuff like this doesn't undermine real victims. Anyone who's going to point to some C-list actress potentially lying about or exaggerating someone sexually abusing her to back up their insistence that there's an epidemic of false reporting of sexual abuse already doesn't believe victims. They're just jumping on any convenient excuse to soapbox.

You know how you can tell? Theft has the same incidence rate of false reporting as rape does, and you don't see these fuckers out insisting anyone who reports being mugged is lying, or anyone who reports a break-in staged it for the insurance money.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that might be because people don't care much about muggings unless it happens to them, or someone close to them. Even when it's a violent mugging people are meh about it. Everybody cares about rape and sexual assault, though. They care a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes it does undermine real victims. And there are a lot of burglary, theft and arson cases where it's first investigated if it was actually insurance fraud- because that's something people do.

[(Anonymous)]

We're not talking about what the police do or do not investigate. We're talking about assholes who scream 'but what if she's lying tho' any time a woman speaks up about sexual abuse or assault.

[(Anonymous)]

If a woman accuses a men, or anyone, of sexual assault I will support a serious investigation and take her accusations seriously, but I will not hand my trust to just anyone because people like you say I have to because women should be believed no matter what. That's bullshit. My trust has to be fucking earned.

[(Anonymous)]

She's still hot.

[(Anonymous)]

the amount of people going "BELIEVE VICTIMS!!! ew not her though" in this case is disgusting.

[(Anonymous)]

Why? Would it be better if they said "ALL VICTIMS ARE LYING!!! VINDICTIVE BITCHES WANT TO JAIL INNOCENT MEN!!!"

It's reasonable to expect that victims in general are telling the truth, and when someone does something to make others doubt the veracity of their claims, then yes, the natural consequence is that their story doesn't get believed.

[(Anonymous)]

It's reasonable to expect that victims in general are telling the truth, and when someone does something to make others doubt the veracity of their claims, then yes, the natural consequence is that their story doesn't get believed.

THIS. The assumption that victims are telling the truth is a good one because 98% of the time, they are. If evidence strongly points towards a particular person falling into the lying 2%, however, then they shouldn't be believed automatically.

[(Anonymous)]

Chloe has always been a dramamongering liar though, so why would it be any different in this case?

I don't believe her.