[ SECRET POST #4754 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4754 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I just want to make the point that monster sex is not furry. It's a different thing. I think it's reasonable to call it furry-adjacent so I'm not really even disagreeing with OP but there is a distinction here imo.

[(Anonymous)]

Monster sex is more like xeno, isn't it?

[philstar22]

TBH I don't see much of a distinction. Still non-human body.

[(Anonymous)]

Degrees of anthropomorphism for one thing

[philstar22]

Uh, I think there is a pretty equal range of anthropomorphism in what furries write and have as a kink. And the secret is specifically about an entirely-not anthropomorphic dragon.

[(Anonymous)]

And the secret is specifically about an entirely-not anthropomorphic dragon.

Yes, I am saying that the secret is about monster sex, not furry. Although (again) I think it's furry-adjacent either way.

[philstar22]

And I personally don't think there is a real difference between the two.

[(Anonymous)]

DA but think of it like a Venn Diagram. Venom and the Asset from Shape of Water are on the monsterfucker side, furries and scalies are on the other. In the middle, there's stuff like werewolves and dragons.

[philstar22]

That makes sense to me, actually. Them being completely distinct doesn't given there seems to be more in common between things of the same level of anthropomorphization in the two different categories than they would have with other things in their own category. Like, a werewolf would have more in common with a dog furry than a dragon. But the Venn diagram idea makes more sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

For a lot of furries though, it's an animal-humanoid with a human level of intelligence.

Lots of furries aren't interested in quadrupeds with a human level of intelligence, like a whole-ass dragon. Some are, which is why there's a weird amount of Lion King smut, but it's not necessarily a furry thing. Lots also aren't into a relatively humanoid animal with an entirely animal level of intelligence, like a werewolf (depending on the werewolf).

Furries (like from Zootopia, Road Rovers, Bucky O'Hare whatever, your standard anthro animal design) go with like... humanoid aliens in one venn circle. Vinnie from Biker Micer sits with Garrus and Predator. It's just how it is. Then shit like Red XIII, intelligent dragons and Nala or w/e go in another circle with any animal-like smart aliens. Then there's the weird shit like Pokemon and Toothless in another one. Reasonably smart, not human intelligence, but people wanna fuck them anyway for some reason.

Then the crossover is shit like werewolves. Can have human intelligence, don't always.... some do, some don't, different interpretations. They variously appeal to some furries, some monsterfuckers and ... the other group.

Monsterfuckers probably won't have much interest in furries, because they're not monsters, they're animal people. Likewise, strict furries aren't going to want to get dirty with Mothman because it's not an anthro animal as such.

It's definitely on the same graph of general weird non-human interest, but they can be distinct from one another and while crossover is certainly possible, it's not a given that it will be.

[philstar22]

Oh, I get that it isn't a given they will cross over. I just don't think it is a given that they are totally distinct. They don't seem to me to be hard line separate categories where it would be easy to define everything as one category or another and nothing ever overlapped.

[(Anonymous)]

Furry is a distinctive, cartoonish style, I think. Creatures that stand like humans but are otherwise animals with like Disney faces.

[philstar22]

Hmmm, really? I thought furry referred to anyone sexualizing animals with some level or another of anthropomorphization.

[(Anonymous)]

In general use, as examples:

A character like Lola Bunny is furry. This level of anthro is what furry generally refers to.

A character like Pikachu would be referred to as bestiality or beast or feral, and it'd be a mistake to assume most people who call themselves furries are into this.

A character like Simba is somewhere between those two, more to the Pikachu side. A character like The Beast is also between those two, more to the Lola Bunny side.

Characters ranging from Lola to the Beast seem to be the most popular and generic type of furry fandom.

The Genie is xeno, or alien, or monster.

[(Anonymous)]

Furry doesn't require sexualisation. You just have to like anthropomorphic animals, usually humanoid ones.

You can be a furry if you're just a fan of anthro-style films, to be fair.

You don't have to be interested in the sexual side of the fandom any more than you have to like hentai to be called an anime fan. If you like furry artwork and only dip your toes in to mainstream anthro-style movies and shows, you can call yourself a furry.

The dirty art is optional, not a requirement.

[philstar22]

That makes sense. Still not sure I see hard lines between that, xeno, and monsters. Someone else above talked about Venn diagrams, and that makes sense. There is too much overlap for me to personally see them as completely distinct categories with hard lines, though.

[(Anonymous)]

If you dont know what furry is, maybe don't try to correct others on it?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think any of the people disagreeing with you are actually furries so feel free to disregard their uninformed opinions on what the community likes.

[(Anonymous)]

Incorrect, bucko.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah monsterfucker is a separate genre

[(Anonymous)]

Your assessment is wrong. There are TONS of furries into dragons, you'll find anthro and non-anthro dragons everywhere at conventions. If you're not a furry, don't correct people on something you yourself know nothing about.

signed,
a furry who has been in the community for 20 years.