[ SECRET POST #4760 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

Spoilers and content warnings ahead.





01. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]



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02. [SPOILERS for The Surge 2]



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03. [SPOILERS for The Mandalorian]



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04. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of gore, violence to women/children]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of racism, sexism/misogyny]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #681.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

06. [WARNING for discussion of racism, sexism/misogyny]
https://i.imgur.com/q8yMOJy.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Not today, Satan.

[(Anonymous)]

Tomorrow?

[(Anonymous)]

This is a very reductive and silly and inflammatory description of the argument, which is funny because part of the reason the argument got so inflamed and toxic was precisely because of people being reductive in the exact same way.

But that's the internet

SA

[(Anonymous)]

I just remembered that I wanted to specifically call out the idea of saying "leftist fandom does X" as a generalization on this level

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

Leftist fandom is pretty keen on 'ALL X do Y' if its their opponents though.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Is this the same person who did the "the majority of people who think they're trans/nb grow out of it and I'm glad I started in fandom surrounded by conservatives because otherwise I might have been convinced I was trans when I'm not" secret?

[(Anonymous)]

*gasp* How could you tell?

OP

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not. The anon above is messing with you.

[philstar22]

Nope.

[(Anonymous)]

What's the context?

I think it's no secret that many people in fandom will jump on whatever righteous sham-social justice train runs toward their ships. But I have no idea what you're talking about so I can't comment beyond that.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-john-boyega-rey-kylo-ren-sex-joke-misogynist-a9266176.html
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7KI8r0JyZm/?hl=en

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who has been following this shitshow, thank you for this comment. It's been so discouraging to see antis and the alt-right team up to harass people.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, the alt right has been harassing reylos?

[(Anonymous)]

On the one hand, I think when people use “white girl” to belittle and dismiss a person, it kind of sucks, because for all it’s pointing out that person’s privilege, there is also often a degree of sexism in it too. And I’m not here for that.

And almost anytime people start throwing the term “bitch” around, that’s a big old nope for me.

But OTOH, John Boyega’s comment honestly seems like no big deal. Like, yeah, it’s a bit crass, but so what? It’s 2020. Women tell other women to “get that dick” all the time. So as far as I’m concerned, JB can talk about his character’s hopes of “laying pipe” with Rey without there being anything inherently sexist about it. And I have no problem with him mocking the people who are super up in arms about it.

If a bunch of people are commenting things like, “Shut up, white bitch,” I think that’s shitty of them, but that’s a separate issue to what JB said.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah this is sort of my reaction.

I didn't think that "laying pipe" was sexist, but I can see how some might see it that way. I don't think every criticism of John Boyega is racist, but there's certainly a lot of people for whom racism absolutely plays a role. It's a reasonable people can disagree situation with wildly unreasonable people involved because it's the internet.

[(Anonymous)]

i think it's fine if ppl are a little put off by the comment, even though personally i don't think it's particularly bad, but the absolutely insane response to it is what's crossing the line for me.

one comment. ONE. which isn't even easy to find because it's in reply to someone on his IG, not slapped up there on a post he made. but suddenly he's enemy no.1? no, the ppl that lost their shit over it and then went to HIS twitter/IG to publicly @ HIM don't get to cry misogyny when he claps back for getting harassed for DAYS.

fandom doesn't give ppl the right to act like toddlers without consequences.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm glad i'm not into this franchise because i will never understand how a series of silly movies about a space war with superpowers manages to garner such a fucking cesspit of a fandom.

fyi i'm not in ANY corner in this fanbase, i don't care, it all seems completely wackadoodle from my outside perspective. every last one of you needs to get off the internet for a day and go outside.

[(Anonymous)]

It has nothing whatsoever to do with any characteristic of the source material, or even the people it attracts. It just happens to be a fandom that's extremely popular in TYOOL 2020. That's literally all the explanation that there is.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, this sums up my thoughts perfectly.

[(Anonymous)]

I love how the comments on the secret are proving the secret right. "You're wrong because Reylo sucks and Reylos are dumb!" OK Chad.

[(Anonymous)]

Good reading comprehension.

[(Anonymous)]

"I don't know what's going on here, but I support an actor's right to punch down."

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's incredibly stupid for an actor to get into petty ship squabbles at all. It's bed enough when they're talking about the characters they play, but it's even worse when the media is already over and done with, and they're only throwing their weight around because they're angry and think their word means more than any other shipper.