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fandomsecrets2020-04-22 05:41 pm
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-22 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)I just don't see it as a live and let live thing either, simply because these are /real/ people, not fictional. Most of the time RPF shippers (that I've seen) go out of their way to let their ship know just how gay/in love they are with their co-star/bandmate. They seem to be the worst type of fan in that regard because a lot of what I've seen is that they actually believe there's something going on behind closed doors. Like you see what happened with the Supernatural fandom, it's literal harassment.
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 12:34 am (UTC)(link)I mean 'oversight' isn't exactly the word I want, but there are people who consult on things or make arrangements with living historical figures or the estates of dead ones, or the story is about an EVENT and I can accept some filling in of gaps in well-documented things.
And sometimes those shows or films will be gross and exploitative-- and if mainstream RPF is disrespectful I think that's a lot worse than a group of young women sharing stories amongst themselves (though the fans who shove it at the people they're writing about or make them uncomfortable with speculation, like... that's not cool).
But I mean, Citizen Kane was RPF with the serial numbers filed off, and if Hearst hadn't made such a stink over it, it might not have gained the fame that led to its place in cinema history today. So who am I to judge I guess?
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 01:02 am (UTC)(link)I hate, hate, hate them! They're honestly worse than casual RPF done by fans because they literally exist to slander and make a profit off of someone who literally cannot say anything dead or alive because in a literal lawsuit between Olivia de Havilland (at age 101) and the TV shitshow 'Feud' even when a show complete fictionalizes you there's nothing you can do because someone can't, and I quote "own history" even though it's her fucking life they're lying about! Seriously it's completely disgusting to me that people get away with this, to make money off of it. That people actually believe what they see on TV because hiding behind a 'based on' apparently means more than the truth. They pretend it's true, at least RPF fans have 'fiction' in their name base...
https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2200562.html?thread=1041509874#cmt1041509874
^ in the secret below someone mentioned shows like this, and I left a bigger rant there, figured I should share it here?
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 12:42 am (UTC)(link)I'm always intrigued how angry people get about RPF when it occurs all the time outside fiction, as someone mentioned above with "The Crown". I'd argue any film or tv series about a still living human being is technically RPF. Supernatural itself had an episode that was the brothers going into another world with the actors from Supernatural. They killed off Misha Collins in that episode (as in he plays an actor on the set of Supernatural called Misha Collins. And he apparently says it's one of his faves.
As long as people aren't shoving their rpf into the actor's faces I don't see the problem here.
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 01:22 am (UTC)(link)I do judge people who actively invest themselves in RPF, tbh. I avoid it as much as I can, and the only time I don't is when it's mentioned on here. My problem with it is that we're dealing with real people, whos personal lives are no one's business but their own. Of course there are crazy fans in every fandom, but RPF is objectively the only case where the fallout can and will cause problems for the people they involve. It's different when fans embarrass themselves on Twitter asking Neil Gaiman about his characters because there is still a break where fiction and reality can be separated. Even if it's just one person, going out of their way to harass an actor, calling their family fake/beards/whatever because they cant tell the difference between the character and the actor/don't want too, it's still one person too many.
Technically this has affected me, I was close to two guys from high school who had their friendship ruined because some girls got creepy and decide to 'ship' them. I've seen people get laughed at for saying they were 'saving themselves' for a fictional character. The difference is that you can do something to yourself all you want, but letting your lack of personal boundary ruin the life of somebody else is just a shitty thing to do. That's why I care so much.
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I write actor A is on a spaceship! And meets actor B! Except their both cyber-soldiers in an interstellar war!
So - really just 'here is my original fic with names you know so you can imagine the people you think are pretty doing these things'.
And if you don't like it (general you), that's fine, just don't come yell in my face about it.
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-23 09:31 am (UTC)(link)