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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-16 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #4880 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4880 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So... like Emma?

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
...do you mean Jane Austen protagonist Emma Woodhouse? Of the book Emma?
I want to be clear, you see, because I can't work out how anyone would link this secret to that character.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but +1.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you mean, Jane Austen's Emma? Have you... actually read that book? Because I have and it's very, very clear that Emma's problem is NOT that she's an incompetent woman child who can barely take care of herself. Her problem is that she thinks too highly of herself, her opinions and her ability to decide things for others. Her growth as a character is that she learns to dial that back because she ends up hurting people and landing herself in super awkward situations.

I mean, I don't even like her as a heroine very much, but she's very obviously not what's being referred to in the secret. I'm not sure whether your reading comprehension skills are poor, or if you're trying to make a point but doing it very badly.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You really thought you had some kind of "gotcha" comment here, huh?

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, they tried.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Emma's not incompetent, though. At age twenty, she runs her father's large household and holds a high place in society. She's not incapable of taking care of herself. Her flaws are that she's rather snobby and nosy, and she tries to make matches when it's none of her business.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. If anything, I'd say she's incredibly capable and competent in the areas that were open to and expected of a woman of her station. Of all Austen's heroines, she was probably the most visibly admirable to audiences of the time--while still having some significant character flaws she needed to work on.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Emma is exactly as accomplished as a young woman of her station ought to be. Arguably, she's got more responsibilities than most wealthy young women because she's also mistress of Hartfield and takes care of her invalid father.

When people talk about a character being a man child, they're referring to someone who is chronologically an adult, but behaves like a child - that slobby frat bro who's never done his own laundry, can't cook, can't handle his adult responsibilities, etc.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
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