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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-17 04:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #4881 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh you poor soul.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
oh.... oh no, OP...

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt the same until I started to distance myself from the fandom (due to its general toxicity), and now... idk. Watching without that constant stream of "meta" about what certain colors mean or some split second of body language has made me realize that it isn't even halfway as insinuated as I really wanted to believe it was. It's really clear that the writers have been consistently writing Cas as a "third brother," not as a potential love interest.

I hate to say it so bluntly, but I really don't think you should hold your breath. If he survives, Dean will likely either be single or involved with a woman, and there really, honestly hasn't been any indication otherwise until you put on the "fangirl goggles."

Maybe I'm just still burned from other fandoms where the fans went absolutely mental over little clues about the main ship being set up to be canon, only for exactly none of it to come to fruition, but at this point I think it's more realistic to just assume it's not going to happen.

This isn't to say you shouldn't enjoy the ship! I absolutely still do, it's one of the strongest OTPs I've ever had. It just... won't be canon. And honestly, that isn't the end of the world.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
i was just about to type something out to this effect but you got in there first haha

mte

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I’d add that the the writers definitely lean into it because they know the fans are into it, but (a) they’re definitely never going to make it canon, and (b) it very rarely rises to the level of “queer-baiting” fandom often claims it does.

NB: Haven’t watched the show since maybe 2012 or 2013; only really shipped Dean and Cas in the early days when it was way more organic and weird (especially season 4...I love them in season 4).

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I stopped watching years ago and while I never expected it to be canon, I can totally believe that there would be a bit of hope if one was deep in fandom. I'm still fond of the ship and sometimes watch their scenes or look at their tag on tumblr and cringe at all those fans who are analysing every single glance and t-shirt color (and also show a general lack of knowledge about how writing/filming a tv show works).

This is definitely not a big case of "WTF is the fandom seeing there???" like Sterek was (seriously, after giving in to watching the show after people losing their minds about them forever I was SO confused), but it's also not OBVIOUS OMG as fandom loves to think.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
all of this.

enjoy the ship as it stands is fine, go for it and have fun. but expecting it to be canon is not a hill anyone should be dying on since it was never going to go that way ever.

it's something i'd love to tell more fandoms tbh: enjoy your ship but don't get angry when it doesn't happen when that was never in the cards, and no: you liking a ship does not mean you're owed it happening in the canon.

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I actually love that kind of ridiculously detailed, tin-hat, out there ship meta, but only when I don't ship it (but am still familiar with the media, so that's a nope to Supernatural since I've never watched it) or mentally prepared myself not to get sucked in by it. When you aren't taking it seriously, it's very entertaining.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh honey

I made Chrissy Teigen's yikes face reading this.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fake out, but no.

Re: I made Chrissy Teigen's yikes face reading this.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I like your optimism.
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[personal profile] venusundae 2020-05-17 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
oh man, op. i haven't watched supernatural since, i believe, season 8? so i can't say i know what has happened in the series since i dipped out. but i feel your pain bc i was there once.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Destiel is one of my favorite ships, but I don’t think they’re ever gonna make it canon and, since the show’s almost over, I really wouldn’t want them to anyway.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think besides what the showrunners think and writers (though they're obviously important for this sort of choice), Jared and Jensen may have too toxic masculinity to go with this. I'm mostly sure Misha would be chill, but those two come off as if they would not.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Jensen tone down a Destiel scene cause he was like "no guy ever does that"? IIRC it was a hug that he noped out of

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-17 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, no, OP, noooo

As the anon up there said, Cas has been the third brother for years. There's a very strong bond, there's a lot of love and affection, and (depressing though it is) there is no way in hell we're going to get anything explicitly stating either Winchester brother is anything but straight.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
i'm with you OP.
I have been trying to rewatch but the amount of queerbaiting makes it frustrating. They won't go there of course but I wish they would.
I'm thinking it's partially because the actors have such amazing chemistry (particularly in the beginning with all the staring into each other's eyes.)

Last episode is tomorrow...

(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
So I guess you'll find out then, but OP, I think you already know the truth...

also, your phrasing "Like a fool!" made me lol.

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, it's ending?! Never thought I'd see the day!

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-05-18 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
We would *all* love to see some canon bisexuality and/or canon m/m friends to lovers on our TVs/in our movies, OP. Don't feel bad.

(Lovely art, secret maker!)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-05-18 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
this whole fandom is foolish OP. we've all been fools over this show one way or another! i get fairly frequent medical kink and some good soulfisting outta my ship, so I've consoled myself with that.
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[personal profile] rivia 2020-05-18 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
it'll never happen but imagine if they pulled a legend of korra in the series finale though.
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[personal profile] melissatreglia 2020-06-07 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I feel your pain, OP. It'll never be, but I still like to imagine it (ie. Dean working through his issues and being with his angel). I have no rationale for still holding onto that ship beyond "I just think it's neat!"

If, in the end, the boys just drive off into the sunset to go on "saving people and hunting things", with their holy tax accountant hitching a ride with them? That'll be a good ending, in my book.

A pretty low bar, granted. But... eh, I don't have much in the way of expectations for this show anymore. I haven't watched regularly since they killed off Crowley. He was my favourite, and I'll never forgive the writers for how they did him dirty in that final episode (not the fact that he died, but that he died so shittily).