[ SECRET POST #4915 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4915 ⌋

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Comments

[sparklywalls]

I think a lot of long-running UK panel shows suffer from this. I don't really watch QI anymore but share your view that Sandi isn't the issue when I do.

Funnily enough the pandemic has kinda given Have I Got News For You a tiny shot in the arm. The first couple of virtual quarantine episodes were awkward as hell but it sort of worked eventually?

I actually can't believe Mock the Week is still going. I thought it'd die the moment Frankie left.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think Mock the Week has improved. Not because of Frankie leaving, but the last few seasons seem a lot fresher and it feels like they're making more of an effort to get new people in. Angela Barns has been a great regular addition. I didn't think Andy Parsons was all that funny, so his departure helped free up a slot.

[sparklywalls]

I was going to ask "has Andy Parsons left?" because he was a huge part of why I went off the show completely. Shouting. And. Punctuating. Every. Word. Just isn't funny.

[(Anonymous)]

I had to look it up but yeah, he left after series 14 and I think the show is better off without him. Ed Byrne and Ed Gamble are on a lot now and IIRC they seem to be making an effort to include more women and POCs, too.

[sparklywalls]

I do like Ed Byrne and Ed Gamble. It's also good that they're making more effort with inclusivity (though I can unfortunately imagine the pushback they're getting for that *sigh* when will people learn that being male doesn't automatically make you funny) - maybe I might give it another go at some point!

I also got quite bored of Russell Howard tbh. I like his stand up and his Good News show but toward the end of my watching it, on MTW he was funny like 50% of the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember when the issue first came up and there was talk of the BBC making it mandatory to include one woman per show or something like that and people were absolutely fucking ridiculous about it. Like oh noooeeeeeeeessss women aren't funneeeeeeeeee and it will ruin eeeeeeeeeeeverything!!!!

Guess what, it didn't. It actually helped. Turns out that expanding your guest base beyond the same dozen or so white guys makes your panel more interesting, go figure.

[sparklywalls]

My favourite thing about that pushback is when they say shit like "oh but women and black comedians talk about periods and racism all the time like that's funny! Bodily functions are gross! And I don't want politics!"

Like white male comedians aren't talking about their cocks and farts all the time and how they worried about voting for some politician because of their stance on something really minor and stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. It's infuriating that whatever white male comedians talk about is normal and anything outside of that experience is somehow wrong or not valid as comedy material? What bullshit.

[sparklywalls]

I actually don't get the "period" complaint because in my experience, in terms of living as a human... female comedians mostly talk about feeling horny, mundane aspects of daily life and being a parent and/or having ageing relatives, which (spoiler alert) the men do too?

As for comedians in any other marginalised group, I love it when they talk about their experiences and especially when they turn it back on their audience. Good. More people should be made to feel uncomfortable for not thinking about this stuff. But it's also hilarious and teaches you something.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it comes from a place where a lot of men are ignorant and squeamish about "women stuff" in a way that's completely irrational. Your balls aren't going to shrivel up and drop up just because you know how a uterus works, you massive piss-baby. You live in a world where roughly half the population are women, you have female relatives, partners and maybe even children. Only white guys can turn an embarrassing lack of knowledge about half the world's population into a sacred monument to their own fragile masculinity.

[(Anonymous)]

Aw, I'm a fan of both HIGNFY and Mock the Week. They have changed a bit, but after so many years that's just how it is.

I do think it's funny that some fanboys are still complaining about Frankie leaving, especially any time topics like Brexit come up. There's a certain subset of people who don't seem to realise that Frankie is actually a lot more liberal than they think.

[sparklywalls]

Haha you are so right about Frankie. I live in Scotland so it's funny seeing so many "fans" upset about his stance on Scottish independence and I'm like really, you didn't see this coming? Not to mention his being against racism and being sexist and generally against being an arsehole surprises people.

I won't lie, his comedy has some bad spots but overall he seems to have grown into a person who hates injustice.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, yes. Frankie makes offensive jokes, but even back when he was on MTW it was clear that he was pretty left-leaning. But the arseholes of the internet only heard that one joke about the Queen and elevated him to some brave martyr fighting against the liberal agenda.

Jimmy Carr gets it too, but to a lesser degree from what I see.

[sparklywalls]

The fact that Jimmy Carr owned his tax fuck up and basically let everyone else let rip into him tells me that he's certainly not the "anti-PC" establishment figure some people desperately want him to be. He could've doubled down on "I was 100% right to do this!" but he didn't, which is one of the things that made me re-think my overall view of him.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't believe there's anyone who doesn't realize Frankie is pretty damn lefist?

[(Anonymous)]

So many people! Half the comments on any MTW video on YouTube seem to be made up of people who don't seem to get it.

Frankie's offensive jokes just draw the arseholes in, I guess.