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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-13 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 20 pages, 498 secrets from Secret Submission Post #102.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 136

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, and guess what? It happened. It's over. We can't go back and decide it never happened. We can't make it not happen. We can't erase it. History is history, and I'm sorry, but once something is over and done with, I find it perfectly acceptable to joke about, so long as it doesn't get completely disrepectful. Hetalia is not disrespectful to events, since it personifies each country as neither evil nor angelic. Which is the way it should be. For example, Germany in APH is not Hitler, he's Germany. And saying that Germany in APH should not be glorified because of what Hitler did is like saying that we should percieve the entire country of Germany as a wicked, evil place with a population of demons straight from Hell because of Hitler; ie, ridiculous.

And, sorry, but I fail to see how the fact that the Rape of Nanking happened connects to Hetalia in any way. Hetalia is a representation of countries as a whole. Do you hate Japan because of the Rape of Nanking? If so, then fine, rant to me about this and such. But if not, you're a hypocrite &hearts:~

Seriously. Hetalia does not disrespect people that were killed in wars. So I hold my position.

[identity profile] xilnold.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, did you look at the secret or did you just see "judge" and "hetalia" in the same sentence?

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
lol I thought that other people had covered the concept of "a couple stupid requests on the kink meme is not representative of the entire fandom" and didn't want to beat a dead horse, but I guess I should've beat said dead horse? Sorry for not being thorough with my rant, but my position still stands. So ONE Hetalia fan requested something fucked up in the kink meme. I suppose that means we're all awful people with no respect, right? No.

[identity profile] xilnold.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems what we have here is a failure to communicate. You posted "Stick up your asses" in response to someone saying "rape of nanking porn is kind of fucked up what the hell internet." Ergo, I assumed you were defending said request.

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
...no, that's *not* what the secret is. The text is "I secretly judge Hetalia fans". Yes, there is a screencap of a dumbass request. However, The secret does NOT single out that request and the like. It uses it as an example and then broadens the statement to "all Hetalia fans are like this". My point was that the request does not relate to the actual series, is a confined case, and is an absurd reason to hate us.

[identity profile] xilnold.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's called an exaggeration to make a point.

Anyways, I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough~ =D

(Anonymous) 2008-12-14 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what the secret is, you dipshit. It's saying that OP judges Hetalia fans based on those fucked up requests. Replying 'lol, stick up your ass!' is the same as saying that those requests are not fucked up and OP is just being over-sensitive.
Now, STFU. You're just making Hetalia fandom look even worse. :/

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
If you're going to be an asshat, at least have the courage to post with your actual journal. Coward.

And it is saying that OP judges ALL Hetalia fans AT LEAST because of a few fans' dumbassery, but possibly for other reasons as well =/. And did I say "OP HAS A STICK UP HIS/HER ASS!"? No. I said "Hetalia haters have sticks up their asses". Which implies that I don't JUST think the OP does, and other Hetalia haters don't necessarily have the same reason.

Seriously, everyone that's being such a dick to me for stating my opinion is no better than I am.

(Anonymous) 2008-12-14 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
the rape of nanking fic wasn't just requested

it was filled


and it had a lot of glowing praise

(Anonymous) 2008-12-14 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read it, but the fic itself is apparently not pornish and actually gives the issue a grim and tasteful treatment. Still don't think they should have posted it in response to a kink meme request, and God knows what the requester was thinking.

[identity profile] wanderingscribe.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
I have read it, it isn't pornish and is very grim, and yes, I do agree with you on the last part. Then again, would it have been written if not for the kink meme? Probably not.

Still, a good point has been made. I salute you, anon.

Re: 136

[identity profile] megglez13.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You're really not helping our case at all.
The secret had screenshots of kink meme requests, including a rapefic based on the Rape of Nanking. So... that's what it has to do with this fandom.

Re: 136

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeaaaah...I'll admit I didn't catch the Rape of Nanking request the first time around. I did get the gist of the secret with the screencaps. I just happened to miss one. So I guess that makes me an idiot =/.

Re: 136

[identity profile] megglez13.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not saying you're an idiot, just maybe you should read stuff a little more carefully before jumping on people like that.
Also, I think it's a good idea to treat people outside the fandom with the same respect and politeness you would treat people in the fandom, even if they are bashing. You come off as rather hostile in these comments, and it only reinforces negative stereotypes about the fandom. If you stay level-headed and explain why you disagree in a calm, mature way, it shows that those stereotypes aren't true.
Sorry for the TL;DR, and I don't mean to come off as patronizing or anything, but this fandom is so nice and friendly that I hate to see it misrepresented.

Re: 136

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mean to come off as patronizing or anything, but this fandom is so nice and friendly that I hate to see it misrepresented.

So why do you think I got upset in the first place? I get frustrated after seeing buckets of hate poured all over this series/fandom when it happens to be a great series with a wonderful fandom. And, not to be rude, but the tone I got from your comments kinda wrecks my outlook of the fandom.

Re: 136

[identity profile] megglez13.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I understand that. It upset me too. But do you see the difference between your reply and saying 'Hey, please don't judge all of us based on the messed-up kinks of a few people'?
I don't really understand what you mean about my tone, though. I've been trying to be polite about this instead of just going 'STOP MAKING US LOOK BAD!!11'.

Re: 136

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I see the difference. However, I'm not going to quit being the person I am. I'm far more blunt and bitchy than most people when frustrated.

And maybe I'm just insane, but you're coming across as really condescending. =/.

Re: 136

(Anonymous) 2008-12-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
You're an ass and are purposely missing the point. It is disrespectful to take something like that and then ask someone to write a fic about it with personified countries. Maybe you should have tried reading the full secret.

Re: 136

[identity profile] maryohki.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh look, a rude idiot! If I'm purposefully missing the point, then I obviously DID read the full secret. Way to contradict yourself.

And as I've stated about a thousand times, I agree that those secrets are warped, and I missed the ONE screencap that related to the Rape of Nanking, as it was in the corner and I don't scrutinize every single secret for 5 minutes since there are so many.