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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-04 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #4960 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4960 ⌋

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[Ashes of Love]


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[BNA: Brand New Animal]


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[Lifetime Channel]


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[The Old Guard]


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[Giga Wrecker]


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[Star Wars]


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[Emma]






















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(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly think relationship stuff in media has gotten lazier. They don't show the work or the chemistry, they just put a dude and a girl in a few scenes and then say they'll die for each other, that's it.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-08-05 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. No, just because there is a guy and a girl together on a piece of media, doesn't mean they are automatically true love. Chemistry sometimes isn't there (though chemistry can be subjective). And relationships, both real and fictional, take work.

Personally that's one reason why friendship ships are a thing I really like. Long-term friendships have that built in relationship work that canon romances often don't have. That's also one reason why romance movies and many/most movie romances in general don't work for me. I just need more time and more work before a romance is believable to me.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! I was just talking about the timing issue with someone today--you really expect me to believe that this person they met two days ago is the entire center of their life now? Really?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Personally that's one reason why friendship ships are a thing I really like.

Same. Probably 99% of my ships are best friends who have a long history. I'm just not going to buy that people who just met a week ago are suddenly the love of each other's life that they'd do anything for, and so many romance plots rely on that, which is why they don't work for me at all. There needs to be some build up before I'm going to believe they're so in love.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just not going to buy that people who just met a week ago are suddenly the love of each other's life that they'd do anything for

Then perhaps romance is not the genre for you.

If you can't buy that aliens might exist, don't watch science fiction. If you can't buy that people can fall in real true love in a week, don't watch romance.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
DA This stuff happens across all genres, though? Like, yes, obviously, the romance genre focuses on romance, amazing. But if I want to watch an action or sci-fi or fantasy movie and they're ALSO falling in love in 48 hours there, where should I be going to avoid that?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-08-05 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'll give you that in a movie, there isn't a whole lot of time. But you can still show an expanse of time. Movies don't generally show real-time, meaning a minute of movie time doesn't mean a minute of time on screen. Movies often show days, months, or years happening for the characters. So there is time to develop a romance. And tvs and books have even less excuse. They can develop a romance, they are just choosing not to.

A romance genre doesn't mean the romance doesn't have to be or shouldn't be developed. Shouldn't that mean the opposite? If the romance is the theme and focus of the media, shouldn't developing it and making it believable be even more important?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, most of the romance I end up reading these days involves extended character development as the main characters grow to overcome their cultural biases and become better suited to a relationship.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-06 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

Like, instalove definitely exists in the romance genre; it's a much-criticized trope for a reason. But the flipside of that is that there are tons of romance authors who've listened to those criticisms--or who've made those criticisms themselves--and who are putting in the work to really develop the MCs' relationship over the course of the story.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. This. All of this. I like ships that have a foundation you can build off of.

Plus, I tend to believe the whole thing about how some of the best relationships are those that start as friendships.
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[personal profile] 11thmirror 2020-08-05 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
He was a boy
She was a girl
And that was all the relationship development they needed!

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
LOL XD!

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
What's annoying is that this actually also happens now with most of what canon gay couples exist. They just put two gay (or bi, or one of each) characters in a few scenes and it's true love.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-05 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Wholeheartedly agree. I think it's because romance is expected, so they dump it in in regardless of the genre and tick the box. There's very little effort to develop it so that it's interesting or has any depth. It's just phoned in.