[ SECRET POST #4972 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4972 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 39 secrets from Secret Submission Post #712.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[fscom]

Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

RULES FOR THIS:
1. NO images bigger than 600x600 in either direction (banners, et cetera).
2. ONE POST PER USER under this thread.
3. What IS allowed: roleplay advertisements, fandom comms, fandom events, things like that.
4. What is NOT allowed: anything for profit, any kind of fic/art commissions, seeking 1-on-1 RP, that kind of thing.

[fscom]

Official clickables thread.

RULES FOR THIS:
1. NO huge images or columns of images that require scrolling, please.
2. ONE POST PER USER under in this thread.
3. If you're going to post, try to at least help the others.

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General comments:

(If the thread contains spoilery/triggery content please warn/post as 2nd comment so it collapses!
Please collapse images, too!)

[fscom]

Games thread!

[philstar22]

I don't think I'm going to be watching it. I really, really hate bad adaptions, and this one looks like it would just make me mad.

[philstar22]

I love good mood boards, but bad ones are annoying. I haven't been on Tumblr really in months. When I was active in my fandom, there was this one person who did amazing mood boards for Tolkien characters. I used to love their mood boards. But yes, mood moards are over-done and I get annoyed with the bad ones.

How are you guys doing today?

[(Anonymous)]

Share what you're up to!

[(Anonymous)]

This! I learned so much about social interaction from seeing how people behave in (fandom) online spaces.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk, I think it depends. I don't mind if people are fans to whatever extent they are fans. But the minute they have strong opinions about things they haven't personally bothered looking into, I would probably school them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say that it's your public behavior that matters. You can judge someone in your mind, but you can't gatekeep them in your mind.

What are some lessons fandom taught you that you applied in real life?

[(Anonymous)]

inspired by #1

[(Anonymous)]

What the everloving fuck?

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, you're better than me. Fandom just made conclude that people are fucking annoying and drama-obsessed. Instead of making friends at work, I just keep to myself like an anti-social asshole and ignore the gossip. (actually easier now with the Covid)

Oh, and your bonus secret wins the internet.

[venusundae]

this secret design is hilarious.
i love fandom moodboards but i have not been inundated w them by any means. i'm sure if i was still on tumblr or even twitter i would be tho, and i get how they can get rly old rly fast. especially when the images used become redundant.

Re: How are you guys doing today?

[philstar22]

Still have a migraine. Watching Youtube vids (Good Mythical Morning channel which I discovered last night), reading fics and Listverse articles, and resting with an icepack.

To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[(Anonymous)]

So, I just finished a book (The Bedlam Stacks by Natasha Pulley, minor spoilers below) and was looking for discussion online. I knew before reading it that there was some disagreement about whether the main (m/m) relationship is romantic or not, and because of that I expected it to be pretty ambiguous, but it just...really wasn't to me. There's one side that says "oh, they're just friends" because there's nothing explicit*, and then the other side (which I'm on) that thinks it's obviously romantic (there's a part where one character wakes up in the other's arms and muses about how he wishes it could be like that all the time, another where he acknowledges that the other is more important to him than his friends or his job or anything else in his life, not to mention that he rejects the possibility of marrying someone else and waits over 20 years to be able to be with the other guy again, plus just the way they interact in general).

I know there's a similar debate with The Untamed** (I haven't seen it, but I've seen plenty of discussion about it) so I'm just wondering about different opinions here...what has to happen in the text for you to consider a m/m or f/f relationship a canon romance and not just queerbaiting or whatever?

*I mean "explicitly stated that the relationship is romantic", not explicit/sex scenes, although I've seen plenty of people complain about a lack of those, too.

**To be fair, I know The Untamed had to deal with censorship laws and (at least as far as I understand) did what they could to portray the relationship as romantic within them, and TBS was written by a British author and didn't have those restrictions, so you could make the argument that for that reason, there should be a higher bar before it should count, but I feel like even without explicitly saying it, it was pretty obvious (and I don't necessarily think it has to be explicitly stated to count if it's made clear in other ways).


Anyway, I'm curious. Does the book/show/movie/etc. have to come out and actually say "they're in love/a couple/whatever", or can it be shown other ways? Do there have to be kissing/sex scenes like I've seen some people say? Does it depend on the culture/possible censorship laws, or are the standards the same regardless?

What do you guys think?

[(Anonymous)]

IIRC, his daughter isn't impressed with it either, she called it "inspired by" rather than an adaptation.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't believe it, but this is somehow even worse than I was expecting. Everything about that picture is wrong, including the clothing. This just screams lowbudget CW superhero show set in modern times.

[venusundae]

god i love this secret haha. i think fandom has taught me a lot of interpersonal skills that i didn't realize it did until i was much older. so many spaces that i had to learn to socially navigate i would not have even bothered w if i hadn't been rly invested in the fandom that brought me there. it also definitely lead me to develop a lot of other skills that i use in my career outside of just interacting w others. p corny, but i'm very grateful for it all really! <3

Re: What are some lessons fandom taught you that you applied in real life?

[philstar22]

I grew up in a very conservative enviroment. I learned about sex from fandom. I first learned to accept LGBTQ people and started my own journey to discovering my bisexuality thanks to fics and fandom. And fandom in fics in general just exposed me to a lot as a kid that I wasn't being exposed to at school or at home and opened my mind to other perspectives and things that the bubble I was in wouldn't have prepared me for otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

This is an ace secret, anon. I'm glad you've learnt so much from fandom.

I can't say I acquired the boss level people skills from fandom that you have, but it certainly was where I learnt a lot about people as a very weird kid with zero social skills. And, as someone with no positive role models in my young life, it was also where I shaped who I wanted to be from the characters I admired.

[(Anonymous)]

IT depends for me. Some universes have movies, books, comics, tv shows, video games etc that some people either don't have time for, can't spend all their money on or simply have no interest in. That's fine.
I love Star Wars, but I'll never play the games or read most of th comics and might even skip some books. I also don't talk about these things like I know them.

What I don't get is people getting the easiest things wrong forever after they started being in fandom like (not all that complicated) character names. How?

Re: To you, what is necessary for a same-sex relationship to be considered canon?

[philstar22]

Depends on the culture for me. Authorial intent does matter, but what is on the page is most important. But in a culture where they aren't allowed to put such things on a page, I will put more weight on the author's intent that the characters are a couple. In that case for me scenes like in Untamed along with the author's clear intent that those are meant to be taken as romantic would be enough.

But on the other hand, in a western country where it is perfectly okay to put in a LGBT couple, I'm going to want more. An author saying they are a couple will have some weight, but without more on the page or screen, I won't view that as particularly strong evidence. After all, an author could just say something else in another interview. They can change their mind. If it isn't on the page or screen, it isn't quite as official.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait. How did this reply end up under this secret? Bleh, sorry. It was for the last one obviously.