[ SECRET POST #4979 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4979 ⌋

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[Jurassic Park]


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[Jeon Somi]


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[Wynonna Earp]


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[The Untamed]


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[Brian Molko of Placebo + Jay Leno = Noel Fielding]


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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't dislike this trope. In m/m or f/f ships I have zero issues with this trope.

But I dislike that it's always the faithful male friend with romantic intent winning the girl over in the end despite (whatever), and practical never the faithful female friend with romantic intent winning the guy over in the end despite (whatever) in het ships.

If those were balanced out more, I wouldn't mind this trope at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Gregory's Girl...

[(Anonymous)]

Is that supposed to mean something, or pointing out one example as though that proves a rule? I'm confused by this reply

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT:just an example of the inverse...

[(Anonymous)]

You're right... and I need to watch Some Kind of Wonderful again to see if that's still a good example of the reverse

[(Anonymous)]

I like it sometimes, but usually if the genders are reversed (guy ends up with girl that is his friend because she's always there for him) and there's no unnecessary makeover for the girl.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, sometimes it makes sense. And sometimes, female main character just decides she's open to something new, or genuinely appreciates what male best friend does.

But no, male best friend's romantic wishes shouldn't automatically override female main character's lack of interest. Well, really, that should be true of any romance, regardless of the genders involved. It would also be nice not to make a villain of someone just because they aren't interested.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, as an ace woman, most of my guy friends over the years have wanted our relationship to be “more.” Some of them handled my lack of reciprocity badly and made me feel like shit. Others handled it well, but it still ended up ruining our friendship.

So I really, really hate this trope in fiction, due to my own miserable experiences with what it’s like when someone has feelings for you and you don’t reciprocate but they can’t help carrying that torch anyway.

I know it’s not the same, since I’m ace and the female character never is. But it’s still too relatable to me, and not in a good way.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you me?? I've only had one dude stick around after I said I didn't want a date.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - I am absolutely not telling you how you should feel, but honestly, IMO it's much better if the guy breaks off the friendship if he knows the friendship isn't going to satisfy him.

In my case, the guys always stick around. For years and years. And we're friends, but also, they wish it was more, and we both know it. And at first it seems like no big deal, but over time it starts to eat them up. Like, they could be out dating other girls, but they're not because they're hanging with me. And then I feel horrible for not reciprocating, and they feel horrible for having these feelings and desires that are hopeless and unreturned.

IDK, I guess it's pretty sucky either way. I mean, if the guy just bounces as soon as he finds out he's not going to be scoring with you, I can see how that would really hurt. So maybe I was too hasty to say it's worse when the guy stays and the lack of reciprocity slowly ruins the friendship and causes you both pain over a period of years. Both ways suck.

[(Anonymous)]

As another ace, Ive had this happen and I agree with the anon above me. As much as it sucks to lose the friendship, it's usually easier if the unrequited move off and do their own thing (mostly bc in my experience they are incredibly entitled and gross about it, not bc I feel awkward. I had one guy get violently angry when I cut my hair and even more so when i rightfully pointed out that we weren't together so he had zero say in anything i did with my hair.)

That said, I cherish the guys that stick around all the better, because I know theyre really my friends.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're missing the point. It's better when the guy with unrequited love breaks it off because he knows it's going to be awkward for both parties if he likes her and it hurts too much to stick around as just a friend. It's better because he respects that the girl's feelings aren't going to change, so he's not going to be waiting around expecting it to become more than a friendship.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Are you me?

[(Anonymous)]

I majorly dislike that trope. Watching it play out feels like having to suffer through every male complaint ever about nice guys/friendzoning. Bleurgh.

[(Anonymous)]

What are examples of this? And the reverse?

I think it's mainly When Harry Met Sally syndrome. That people are unable to believe that cishet men and women could possibly be platonic friends and nothing more.

While in real life usually one of them wants a relationship and the other doesn't (yeah, usually the man wants the relationship), but I'm skeptical that they're actually good friends. He Nice Guys her, and she either tolerates him or uses him. That's not friendship.

[(Anonymous)]

THERE ARE PENISES AND VAGINAS AND THEY CANNOT COEXIST WITHOUT SOME HOT SEXYTIMES INVOLVED

IT IS KNOWN /s

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Pretty in Pink is an example where it was supposed to happen, but didn't due to test audiences and the studio (which actually felt like the right choice to me, since it seemed to me that Andie was not interested in Duckie, at all), so John Hughes made sure it happened with the reverse in Some Kind of Wonderful (which was fine with me because it seemed like Keith was only sort of stuck on an ideal of Amanda and not really her and saw Watts in a new light).

Examples,
iCarly - Freddie/Carly (for a time)
Frasier - Niles/Daphne
Friends - Ross/Rachel
The Big Bang Theory - Leonard/Penny
The Flash (2014) - Barry/Iris
Smallville - Clark/Lana (for a time)

and the reverse,
Friends - Monica/Chandler (well, sort of retconned)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Willow/Xander (for a time)
West Wing (Donna/Josh)

[(Anonymous)]

Lol. This is a first for me. One of my comments on another secret got turned into a secret.

But yeah, I hate this trope. People shouldn't have to settle for people they aren't attracted/interested in just because the person is always around and is attracted to you.

[(Anonymous)]

I can only like this trope if the friend never says anything about their feelings, only wants the person they like to be happy with whoever makes them happy, and the person they like comes to see them as a potential partner on their own.

If there's a whiny entitled rant about how they should have expected to be treated badly because they picked the "wrong" people and they're shallow for overlooking the "nice" person, I am out. If at any point the "friendship" is revealed to be less than genuine, I hate it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, then Crazy Ex Girlfriend is the show for you

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to recommend that very same show. :)

[(Anonymous)]

lol. I think it depends on how it's done. But yeah it's usually not my thing unless they have chemistry.

[(Anonymous)]

"Unless they have chemistry" is a key caveat in media, I feel. I can forgive a lot when the chemistry is strong because at the end of the day I just want to be entertained lol.

[(Anonymous)]

When you say "only there for her because he's into her romantically" is what you really mean "only there because he wants something romantic and probably also sexual in return for being there for her?" Because the first one by itself isn't something bad. It's basically the same as saying "only being there for her because he cares about her." Which is just... what you do when you care about someone. Because you care about them. Maybe those are the kind of ships you unwillingly find yourself shipping, and you don't have to hate them. They're not skeevy, they're how normal healthy relationships work.