ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-03-16 01:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #070 ]


⌈ Secret Post #070 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe.

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Early because I may not be back in time otherwise :D

Remember, today's the last day to get your secrets in to show up next week!

Happy 10 week anniversary, F!S ♥ At least... as far as I can figure, as the secrets posts go. 10x7=70 right?

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[identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com 2007-03-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, just asking because like, have to make sure it's fandomy for the comm and not just random personal-hate. Is it some BNF or something that I should recognize but don't? *dies*
hughes: (darkened sky;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Heya, I know the person who did the secret and advised them to make it clear it was fandom-related, but I guess that was after they sent it in. D: Basically, that's someone who got close to them--got close to a lot of us, really, but them in particular--through fandom and ended up manipulating the hell out of all of us.

Dunno if that makes it eligible or not, but that's the story. :/

[identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that sucks.

What happened, or is it something personal? >>"
hughes: (into a new world;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda personal, so I won't go into the details, but the general gist of it is that she told a lot of lies about herself to get pity and attention, (and I mean serious stuff, like saying she had cancer), while at the same time overexaggerating or outright lying about stuff that made her sound appealing (saying she was friends with band members, etc). I myself was really good friends with her for a few years--even spent a few days with her IRL--and because she managed to keep most of the lies straight, none of us suspected she was playing us for fools until just a few months ago. It was kind of a creeping realization, though.

That was in regards to me and my other friend, though. To [livejournal.com profile] klytaemnestra and the person who sent in the secret? She did so much more.

[identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
...and I'm going like "watch lol she really gets cancer"

*terrible person*

That's an awful thing to do, though.
hughes: (king of pain;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you actually kind of hit the nail on the head. XD; Like... some horrible stuff really HAD happened to her to make her so fucked up in the first place, which made it doubly hard to separate the truth from the lies. :| Because on one hand, it was all so unbelievable, but on the other, if she was telling the truth, it'd make us horrible people to question it.

Yeah. She left a huge mess. x_x

[identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
*dies* Makes me glad I've never heard of her. Sorry you guys had to go through that.
hughes: (drunk;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the less people who know her the better. :[ I'd give her LJ name as a warning, but I think she feels too "cool" to hang around and do much fandom stuff on LJ nowadays. But anyway, thanks for hearing that out. XD <3

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 02:11 am (UTC)(link)

My sister who is diagnosed as being borderline did the exact same thing to her friends. And it destroyed them.

What is wrong with some people? o_O;

[identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
They want to be helpless and worried over and need to know for sure'n have like concrete evidence that people care about them or something so they turn themselves into victims and make stuff up to be victimized by even if nothing exists 'cause they're insecure? :D

/random psychobabble stuff

I think in certain instances a healthy dose of like, egoism is good, 'cause if you're all "what you mean my friends don't care, of COURSE they care, how could they not" then... huge load off everybody's backs. *dies*
hughes: (26;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
They want to be helpless and worried over and need to know for sure'n have like concrete evidence that people care about them or something so they turn themselves into victims and make stuff up to be victimized by even if nothing exists 'cause they're insecure? :D

That sounds about right. =_= Of course, all they do in the end is hurt other people.

[identity profile] lostremnant.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Man this sounds like someone who frequented a gamer's forum that I was part of a few years ago and who told a bunch of pitable stories about herself that we later found were lies.

Then a supposed rl friend posted that this girl had committed suicide. We were a close knit gaming group at the time and the whole community was just stunned. Several people felt incredible guilt, posting how they felt they should have been able to prevent it.

You probably can see where this is going. Yep, the "real life friend" who had posted the suicide news was the same girl with a different account. She had faked her own suicide and then had sat back and read all the grieving posts about her.

There are some really sick people out there.

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 04:42 am (UTC)(link)

People need help.

Everyone's looking for someone to 'care' about them, and really if you're honest someone out there will come to care about you. Had she been an honest friend I wouldn't have not cared about her, but I suppose she just needed something more to solidify it. I was always wanting to protect her from something because she was so very young when I first met her. And really, she was completely brainwashing me with her crap. When she mentioned me in her journal I got isanely happy and flattered and loved. And when she didn't I'd emo over it.

She did a real number on me for about six months and then was a presence in my life for years after. And I know she did the exact same thing to others and it makes me sick because I didn't spot it early on. I didn't jerk her around and tell her to stop with her whining and DO something to help herself.

And she's probably doing it to someone else now. All of us got tired of her shit, we grew up, moved on, saw between the lies. And some poor kid's getting the same treatment now in all likelihood. x_x

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 01:16 am (UTC)(link)

I was kind of horrified to learn she did it to someone else. x_x

I only know some of what she did from [livejournal.com profile] kinneas, but it seems that our stories are the same just a few years apart. Makes me wonder if she's doing it to someone else right now.

hughes: (color my sky;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I know. x_x When she told me about all the parallels, I was even more disgusted than I had been before, when I thought she'd only done that shit to her. (Then again, the new revelations caused me to think back on how the manipulator in question had lamented about one of her good friends "abandoning" her a while back because of something horrible that had happened to her, and I realized that had probably been a similar situation, and that other good friend had probably finally gotten smart and gotten sick of her lies.)

So yeah, I have no doubts she's moved on to leech off someone else. God help them. :/

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 01:52 am (UTC)(link)

For all I know she might have been referring to me since I did stop coddling her after some time. She really was masterful at what she did. I always suspected things, but I was so taken with her at the time that I just looked past it. And when my mum more or less forced me to rethink my friendship with her, I started seeing things differently. Until the other week, however, some part of me still thought there was some truth to our friendship ... unfortunately, now I know it was just her using someone like she had likely done before, and did after and will do again.

hughes: (elementary;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it was a guy--Gene was his name, I think?

Ugh, yeah, Emily told me a little bit about how you got out. I kind of feel guilty about Emily, too, since she met her through me. :/ It still feels pretty surreal that [livejournal.com profile] burningvigor and I met her in RL... and even then, she had a self-pity-filled, emotional crisis that probably had more of a basis in fiction than fact. Ugh, but I still wonder.

I also have lingering suspicions that she might have stolen my friend's laptop when she spent that time with us in RL. :/ That might just be a total coincidence that it went missing, along with my own paranoia but... a photo she showed me later of her using an incidentally similar laptop at some salon made me wonder.

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-03-17 05:26 am (UTC)(link)

Ah yes, Gene. He was allegedly a really hot Asian guy, but I have no idea if this was true or her just trying to make him more appealing to me at the time. o_O

I remember that you all went to AX in 2005 I believe -- correct me if I'm confusing something here -- because she was talking to me at that time and gushing over it.

I really wouldn't doubt it, yanno. I'd like to think otherwise, but I really can't. She lied about everything and if you can't trust someone to be honest to the people who care about them, what can be said about any other moral standards most of us abide by?

hughes: (under the knife;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-03-17 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
AX 2005, that's right. Her story (this happened in the middle of the con) was that a friend who she'd bought the registration for had decided not to come and left her paying the check for the unused registration. She called me on my cell phone (my friends and I were at a different place in the con) and she sounded like she was crying and distraught. I consoled her (or so I thought) and she did the routine of "no, I'm just ruining your fun time, don't pay attention to me!" We then went and found her crying in a corner of the Dealer's Room, but were able to "cheer her up" after a while.

She also had a long, long talk with [livejournal.com profile] burningvigor's mom one of the nights that everyone else was in another room, in which she apparently said she had a gun in her trunk she was going to kill herself with and shit like that. Pff, yeah. Court's mom is a kind of no-nonsense woman who's good at talking to people and seeing through them, though, so she definitely gave her verbal slappage for that. (Still, she was pretty fooled besides that, just like the rest of us.)

The one unfortunate thing that happened to her that I can say is true is that the catsuit-type thing she got to cosplay Psycho Mantis kept ripping and falling apart, most noticeably in the ass area. We of course felt bad for her at the time, but.... I guess now I'd call it bad karma. XD

And yeah. :/